Reply #132: Utter stupidity [View All]

[Frederik]

Is Sibel Edmonds an example of utter stupidity?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3561783

"Tom, I’m telling you that not a single newspaper covered what happened to me on Thursday when I went into court," said the exasperated translator, adding, " Ginsberg kicked everyone out, cut off my lawyer’s arguments and told us ‘we have questions to ask the government’s attorneys that you cannot hear.’ "

"Criminal evidence in Edmonds’ explosive case is apparently getting too close to Washington officials, since the former contract linguist also told us she would not deny that "once this issue gets to be...investigated, you will be seeing certain people that we know from this country standing trial; and they will be prosecuted criminally," revealing the content of the FBI intercepts she heard indicates that recognizable, very high-profile American citizens are linked to the 911 attacks."

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http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0504/S00251.htm


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x37842


"I am highly puzzled and curious.

This puzzles me, having first hand knowledge of on going intelligence received and processed by the FBI since 1997, which contained specific information implicating certain high level government and elected officials in criminal activities directly and indirectly related to terrorist money laundering, narcotics, and illegal arms sales. It is highly curious that the report omitted all this information, knowing that others in the Congress have been briefed on these issues, having been given the names of targets involved, Special Agents, translators, field offices, and files.

I am highly puzzled and curious."

http://www.breakfornews.com/Sibel-Edmonds1.htm


Is Daniel Ellsberg an example of utter stupidity?

Ashcroft may face prison
over 9/11 cover-up,
says Daniel Ellsberg
Former Special Assistant to the Assistant Secretary of Defense (ISA), DOD

"Talk of US government interference in 9/11 investigations, and the considerable volume of online analysis discounting the official conspiracy theory, resonate with Ellsberg.

"I'm not an expert on all this," he admits. "But I am increasingly open to the explanation that people in the administration did see this coming... and may have indeed reduced some obstacles.., or opened the door, in effect. I haven't been absolutely convinced on that, but it does seem to me to be an open question that deserves investigation."

"Now beyond that... it seems to me quite plausible that --plausible, that's all I'd say-- that Pakistan was quite involved in this, and that many Saudis were well informed on this," says Ellsberg.

"And to say that. To say Pakistan-- is to me, to say C.I.A. Because I think the relations between the Pakistan I.S.I. and CIA were very close from the beginning. And it's hard to say that the I.S.I knew something that the CIA had no knowledge of."

"So if you say, do I accept confidently, and do I rely on the official interpretation? Certainly not. But, I wouldn't say that I have been yet been thoroughly convinced by any alternative."

"I can add one thing though -from my own experience, that's relevant."

"Is it possible... that an American president could have... welcomed an attack on America that he would interpret justifying an invasion of another country?"

"Well, that's more than possible, that happened --under a president that I served. Lyndon Johnson did put American destroyers in harms way, deliberately provoking an attack.. in the Tonkin Gulf. Not only in August of '64, but in February of '65. ...There was an attack on August 2nd, and that was not unwelcome to the United States at that point."

http://www.breakfornews.com/Sibel-Edmonds1.htm

This is the national security whistleblower coalition, organized by Sibel Edmonds and others, several of whom have specific knowledge implicating US officials in the Sept 11 attacks:

1. Anderson, Mick, Former Senior Advisor for Policy, DOJ,
2. Bittler, Thomas, Training Coordinator, TSA-DHS,
3. Carman, John, Former Senior Inspector, U.S. Customs,
4. Carson, Joe, Nuclear Safety Engineer, DOE
5. Chambers, Theresa, Former National Park Service Police Chief,
6. Costello, Edward J. Jr., Former Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI,
7. Cole, John M., Former Veteran Intelligence Operations Specialist, FBI,
8. Coleman, Marsha Adebeyo, Senior Policy Analyst, EPA,
9. Conrad, David “Mark”, Retired Agent in Charge, Internal Affairs, U.S. Customs,
10. Cruse, Larry, Army Intelligence Analyst, DOD,
11. Czarkowski, Carol, Navy-DOD,
12. Dew, Rosemary, Veteran Supervisory Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI
13. Dzakovic, Bogdan, Former Red Team Leader, FAA,
14. Edmonds, Sibel, Former Language Specialist, FBI
15. Ellsberg, Dan, Former Special Assistant to the Assistant Secretary of Defense (ISA), DOD,
16. Elson, Steve, Veteran Agent, FAA,
17. Fogg, Matthew F., Chief Deputy US Marshal, (INA),
18. Foley, Theresa, Special Agent, FBI,
19. Forbes, David, Aviation, Logistics and Govt. Security Analysts, Boyd Forbes, Inc.,
20. German, Mike, Former Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI,
21. Goodman, Melvin A., Former Senior Analyst/ Division Manager, CIA; Senior Fellow at the Center for International Policy,
22. Graf, Mark, Former Security Supervisor & Derivative Classifier, DOE,
23. Graham, Gilbert, Veteran Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI
24. Jenkins, Steve, Intelligence Analyst, NGIC, US Army
25. Johnson, Manny, Former Supervisory Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI
26. Kleiman, Diane, Former Special Agent, US Customs,
27. Kwiatkowski, Karen U., Lt. Col. USAF (ret.), Veteran Policy Analyst-DOD,
28. Larkin, Lynne A., Former Operations Officer, CIA,
29. Lewis, Linda, Current Emergency Program Specialist (WMD), FSIS- USDA
30. Lau, Lok, Former Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI
31. MacMichael, David, Former Senior Estimates Officer, CIA,
32. McGovern, Raymond L., Former Analyst, CIA,
33. Nunn, Sandy, Former Special Agent, US Customs,
34. Pahle, Theodore J., Senior Intelligence Officer (Ret), DIA,
35. Radack Jesselyn, Former Counsel, DOJ,
36. Rowley, Coleen, Retired Special Agent and Former Division Counsel, FBI,
37. Sarshar, Behrooz, Retired Language Specialist, FBI,
38. Spaulding, Kerry, Veteran Agent, FAA mailto:[e-mail]
39. Sullivan, Brian F., Special Agent, Risk Program Management Specialist, FAA,
40. Tice, Russ, Senior Intelligence Analyst & Action Officer, NSA,
41. Tortorich, Larry J., Retired Naval Officer, US Navy & Dept. of Homeland Security/TSA,
42. Turner, Jane, Veteran Special Agent, FBI,
43. Vincent, John, Veteran Special agent, Counterterrorism, FBI
44. Walp, Glenn, PhD, Former Office Leader of the Office of Security Inquiries, Los Alamos National Lab, DOE,
45. Wehrly, Dot, Veteran Special Agent (Current), FBI,
46. Whitehurst, Dr. Fred, (Retired) Supervisory Special Agent/Laboratory Forensic Examiner, FBI,
47. Woo, Robert, Former Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI,
48. Wright, Ann, Col. US Army (ret.); and Former Foreign Service officer
49. Wright, Robert, Veteran Special agent, Counterterrorism, FBI
50. Zipoli, Matthew J., Former Special Response Team (SRT) Officer, DOE

Crackpots?

Robert Wright
Veteran Special agent, Counterterrorism, FBI, about 9/11:

"There's so much more. God, there's so much more. A lot more."

Robert Wright, like Sibel Edmonds, is under a gag order, so they are not allowed to say what they know - for now.