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Reply #74: You mean like over threads like this? "Hillary's Speeches: Pure Out-And-Out Horseshit" [View All]

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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 02:40 AM
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74.  You mean like over threads like this? "Hillary's Speeches: Pure Out-And-Out Horseshit"
I am sure that Hillary's supporters think that DU posters show fine judgment and manners when they rate up a thread that has a title like this.

If Hillary was really the dirty trickster that people claim she is, Obama's name would be mud. That is what the RNC is hoping to see. They don't want McCain to have to do it. They want Hillary to do it for them. There is so much dirt--- the way he lied about not taking money from lobbyists and corps when he really does and the way that he has people associated with special interests working in his campaign, his ties to nuclear energy and how that lead him to vote for Cheney's energy bill that Hillary voted against, Axelrod's ties to AT&T and his other ties to Verizon---the two telecoms that now want immunity for spying (will his DOJ prosecute or give them immunity?). And all the dirty tricks, "Sen, Clinton (D. Punjab)", "The Race Memo" with its three debunked lies both of which his campaign tried to give to reporters on a "you didn't get this from us" basis (who knows how many memos that has worked with?), Obama's public attacks on Hillary for planting dirty information against him with right wingers like Bob Novak and Drudge that everyone could tell were lying but Obama went out of his way to slander Hillary just to score some points, his campaign's attempts to interject race before South Carolina to make up for New Hampshire and Nevada, caucus dirty tricks in Texas like Obama supporters signing other people in at the caucuses and filling out caucus forms in advance as well as his constant barrage of "Hillary is no different from a Republican like John McCain on the war"---so much for not handicapping a fellow Dem in case she is the nominee. And his lie about never doing a favor for Rezko and his lie about not having a pharmaceutical lobbyist on his campaign staff and his lie about never hearing Wright say anything controversial. The Harry and Louise ads and the ads he is running now in which he lies and says he is getting no oil money when he is getting lots of money from oil industry employees (companies can not give money by federal law, all the case comes from employees, does he think we were born yesterday?).

Obama should have been vetted months ago. This tally is getting too damn long. He is going to go into the general with no one knowing anything about him and a closet filled with skeletons and dirt for every NYT and WaPo writer to dug up. If just one of these stories breaks a week that is three solid months of bad press.

Everyone went soft on him, because he was young, new, nice. Lee Atwater said the best kind of opponent was one that was undefined, because he could determine what the public would see him. Read my journal about the Right Wing Media vs. Obama to find out how the other half of the country already sees him then imagine what will happen when the story dump happens.

A few Hillary supporters want a woman to win. A few Obama supporters want a Black to win. But most Hillary supporters are people who want desperately for a Dem to win this fall and they are afraid that Obama can not do it.
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