Are there really more of them than us, and how much more? [View All]

[Sliverofhope]

l thought we had a pretty anti-Bush thing going. Did we overestimate it? The polling results suggest we did.

But another part of me never saw Kerry as being able to win this election nomatter what. Something would have come up to prevent Bush from losing. So in actuality, I'm not surprised.

I just really want to know, with as much accuracy as possible:

1) was there fraud

2) how outnumbered are we?

As far as personal anecdotes, today I just heard one liberal who was surprised and arguing with a conservative who said he wasn't surprised. I don't know about others. Is there a consensus that people didn't want Bush, or have we totally really misread this?

And this isn't just conspiracy theorizing for the sake of it, either.

Any way you look at it, we need to define numerically how behind we are in order to correctly diagnose and treat the problem, starting with 2006.