Enough is an Effing-nough [View All]

[Scriptor Ignotus]

Pay attention DU, I'm only going to say this once.

Al Qaeda is responsible for 9/11 and other terrorist attacks. Osama Bin Laden is responsible for 9/11 and other terrorist attacks. We should have been going after these guys without hesitation since Sept. 12, 2001 (at the least).

Al Qaeda and Bin Laden are MOST LIKELY in the mountains of Afghanistan or Pakistan. Obviously we don't know for sure.

Hillary, Edwards, Biden, Obama, Giulani, Thompson, McCain would ALL LAUNCH ATTACKS ON PAKISTAN IF THEY THOUGHT BIN LADEN WAS THERE. Yes, they would ask Musharraf first. But if he says no or can't do the job then what?

The pile-on Obama for stating the obvious is unbelievable. I haven't seen such cognitive dissonance from Democrats since I joined this board.

Do you even know why you oppose the war in Iraq? I oppose it because it is the wrong war. We were supposed to go after Al Qaeda. We can largely fight these extremists using intelligence and good old fashioned police work, as John Kerry said. However, there are training camps that need to be attacked and there are individuals who must be brought to justice (Bin Laden and co.). It will take boots on the ground in some instances to get the job done. Sorry folks, but bringing all the troops home won't catch Bin Laden. It won't stop Al Qaeda. We should get our troops out of Iraq, but we do need to send some after Al Qaeda.

Going after Al Qaeda is NOT EXPANDING THE WAR ON TERROR. It's fighting the war the way it was supposed to have been fought five years ago. It's correcting Bush's mistakes.

Bush has done considerable damage to our reputation overseas, our military, and our economy. But I hope to dear God whoever takes the White House in 2008 will finish the job Bush never could and catch or kill Osama Bin Laden.

I live in Brooklyn and work in Manhattan. In Times Square. The War on Terror may be a big fucking joke to you, but it's something me, my friends, and family all worry about. When that pipe burst a week or two ago, the entire city held its breath. We will probably get hit again and I work in an area that has a huge fucking bullseye on it. I want Bin Laden caught. I don't care if he has marginal influence with Al Qaeda now. I don't care if you think Bush ordered the towers to be demolished. I want this man caught, convicted or killed.

I can't fault you for hearing Al Qaeda and equating it to the bogeyman. But just because Bush has exploited them, doesn't mean they don't exist or wish to do us harm. Or did Bush order the attacks in Spain and London? There is a real threat out there that we must fight. Diplomacy and respecting other countries sovereignty is vital to that effort, I think we all agree. But at some point we have to do what we have to do.

But if you think for one second Hillary or Edwards wouldn't do EXACTLY what Obama said (assuming you actually read the speech and know what he really said), then you are the one being naive.