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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 10:15 AM
Response to Reply #23
31. Wrong on two levels
1) It's a label DUers give to ANY Dem they don't like, regardless of gender. Lieberman, Emanuel, Nelson (both of 'em), Bayh and many other men are hit with this regularly. The reason you may see it less with men is that DUers are more comfortable calling the men things like "asswipe" and "dickhead". With the women, they tend to stick with milder insults.

2) Voting record is a poor indicator of political values, especially if it's a naked percentage. Is there ANY Democrat who doesn't have a 90+ rating of voting with their party? What really counts is what they say about the vote and how they handle their votes. Fein$tein's recent flips have cost us far more than all of her supposed liberal votes have gained us. Hillary's silence on FISA, Mukasey, The Iraq Supplemental and more has shown her to be a tepid supporter at best of that allegedly progressive voting record she touts.

Finally, you can't argue that there are people who attack women politicians solely because of gender without also admitting that there are people who will defend women politicians solely based on gender. How would you like it if every time you said something nice about Hillary, we all accused you of doing it just because she's a woman?

Most of the people here on DU are better than that, and your inflamatory characterizations make it much more difficult to have a real discussion on the issues.
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