Reply #55: As I said downthread, weather is an intrinsic factor in election; the ruling is extraordinary [View All]

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You can't compare them. The ruling was a non-intrinsic factor that significantly effected the resaults of the race. To compare it to weather is absurd on its face.

It is of course impossible to "provide evidence" that the percentages "would have been different." There would have been campaigning, advertising, GOTV efforts, on the ground organization, everything that a real election has (and which, by the way, has largely been credited for Obama's positive results). You're asking people to provide evidence by constructing a possible world that never existed. It's a logical error. What would have happened with a massive campaign effort, advertising, on the ground organization, phone banking, get out the vote efforts, multiple tour stops and speaking events and debates that focused on Florida and canvassing, and door hanging, and door-to-door efforts, and national organization and headquarters in all big and medium cities and college tours and factory tours and all that stuff, all the stuff that comes with a REAL presidential election. That's essentially what you're asking me to provide evidence about: a world that didn't exist. There is no evidence for it, and that's the greatest evidence that the Florida vote is completely illegitimate.

All somebody need prove is that the results are not what they would have been under normal circumstances, and that the event which made the circumstances non-normal was controllable and extraordinary.