Reply #72: Learn a little history. [View All]

[RaleighNCDUer]

The Nazis did not open the death camps in 1931. It took a while to get there. They expanded the use of the DP for a number of crimes and nobody protested very hard (without getting arrested themselves) which empowered them to expand them even more until by 1943 the state was, as you said, executing people without reason and/or for reasons of race/creed/religion.

Also, one of the FIRST groups they conducted wholesale executions of were the euthanasia programs against disabled persons - those persons who were determined to be a 'burden on society', just as the life-in-prison persons are a burden on society. They will never be useful, always be a burden, so let's kill them.

THAT is the correlation I was making. When the power of the state is the issue, matters like guilt or innocence are secondary. Scalia, evidently one of your heroes, said that factual innocence of a crime is not sufficient grounds to overturn a properly arrived at 'guilty' verdict. Who cares if the person is innocent? Let's kill him.

The only reason we have a constitution is because we recognize that the individual is powerless against the overwhelming might of the state. Allowing the state the power to decide who lives and who dies gives it absolute power.

And by the way, why the FUCK do you disallow me 'justification' as an argument against the DP but claim the same fucking 'justification' as a reason to uphold the DP? FUCKING HYPOCRIT.