Reply #30: What if you find evidence [View All]

[lapfog_1]

There are already many examples of malfunctions and odd results.
The posts about these seem to be non-stop.

Can we ever prove that Kerry won? Enough to stop the inauguration?

I know, a lot of us don't want to give up.

I think the best thing to do is to make sure this doesn't happen
again... and failing that, then to make sure that the last one with
hands in the cookie jar (voting boxes) is US.

In an ideal world, we would vote with touch screens that produce
a paper ballot (in the language of the person voting), and that
after the voter inspects the prepared ballot, it gets tabulated
twice, by two different machines from two different suppliers.
And there are random hand counts as well. Plus enough voting
equipment so everyone can vote, plus uniform voter registration
rules (motor/voter sounds pretty good to me)... and so on.

If we (the dem/progs) lose to the repugs fair and square, so be it.
If America wants to vote fascism into power, so be it.

But if we can't get that... then I suggest we start playing just
as dirty as the other side, otherwise, we will never have a dem
majority in the house, senate or president, no matter the "will
of the people".

As for the current election, I just don't see anyone overturning
what is "accepted" right now. Might feel different if Kerry or
the DNC were raising hell and filing lawsuits left and right, or
if we could get even ONE major media outlet (other than Keith) to
investigate. All that we have now are "sore loser" labels and
"conspiracy nut" stories... even though I was pretty convinced
BEFORE the election that Bushco would steal it... if he could only
keep it close, which he did. Now I'm convinced they DID steal it.
I simply cannot imagine 9 million MORE votes for Bush in 2004 than
in 2000. Doesn't jibe with any repuke friends said before Nov 2,
and doesn't jibe with anything else. I just don't think that 9
million evangelicals came out to vote for Bush that DIDN'T vote
for him in 2000, plus the new voters were FOR Kerry. Knowing it
and proving it are two different things. Proving it and making
it STICK are also two different things. I don't think we can prove
that enough votes were screwed with to change the outcome (even
in Ohio), and I think that even it was proved, making it stick
would require guns and stuff. And we, as a nation, just aren't up
for that. Note that in the Ukraine, there were MASSIVE demonstrations
when the vote didn't agree with the exit polls... and note that
we haven't had 2 million or 3 million march on congress. Numbers
large enough that the MSM can't ignore them.