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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 11:03 AM
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72. Sealed V Sealed is NOT a figment of Madsen's imagination. Here's a
Edited on Tue May-23-06 11:07 AM by Catrina
link that explains why an indictment might filed that in court ~

Discovering Secret Dockets

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According to a survey by The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press for this guide, federal courts and many state courts allow for "super-secret" cases, which never appear on the public docket or are hidden using pseudonyms, such as "Sealed v. Sealed" or "John Doe v. Jane Doe." Courts that maintain these secret dockets will neither confirm nor deny the existence of such cases. As a result, these cases proceed through the court system undetected.

Further down however, it says that in a recent terrorism case, kept secret by the DOJ, two reporters, Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball were able to find out about the case because of sources they used:

Faris' case may have remained a secret were it not for two Newsweek reporters, Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball, who discovered through intelligence documents that Faris was suspected of working for key al Qaida operative Khalid Shaikh Mohammed.

This has been challenged in court and apparently sometimes only documents, and not an entire case, may be listed as 'Sealed V Sealed'. Which means that unless the Prosecutor requests that the case not appear on the public docket under that title, or the judge makes such a decision, it can be found ~ also, not all states allow this, but most do.

However, while the law disfavors secret dockets, they are still used by federal and state courts to hide sealed cases. When an entire case is sealed, rather than individual documents, federal courts either remove the case from the public docket or replace the parties' names with anonymous pseudonyms such as "Sealed v. Sealed."


And another interesting discovery from this report, Mark Corallo, Rove's spokesperson, either does or did work for the DOJ. And, he doesn't like reporters finding out about 'Secret' indictments for 'national security' reasons. So, presumably he would not consider it a lie if asked about such an indictment. He would, after all, be protecting the country! :sarcasm:

The Justice Department will not divulge how many other individuals are being held in secret on terrorism charges. "We have been very consistent in not discussing exact numbers," Corallo said. "Even though it seems like innocuous information, it is not."

Corallo claimed that providing numbers of individuals arrested on terrorism charges would "give a road map to the terrorists." Terrorist organizations could determine how many terrorists the Justice Department has captured and monitor the government's progress, he explained.


http://www.rcfp.org/secretjustice/secretdockets/pg1.html


So, Mark Corallo might think that a sealed Rove indictment should not be made known to reporters for 'national security' reasons, and MIGHT lie about it, if asked! Interesting! Seems it might not be too far-fetched to take Mark Corallo's statements to reporters with a grain of salt!! The more we learn, the more possibility there is that TO may have been right.
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