Reply #224: Read first sentence again.. [View All]

[Liberalatus]

Because I am trying to have a civil intelligent discussion about a complicated subject, and it seems you are only trying to "trap" me in some kind of logical inconsistency, which I have already admitted to having.

There is a difference between a philosophical absolute, and being practical. If you cannot make that distinction, than we cannot continue. The philosophical absolute: It is wrong to kill. The practical: Sometimes it is neccessary and justified.

Example: Someone breaks into my home, and is threatening me or my family. I have the right to do whatever it takes to stop them, including killing them. That is justified. (Practical) However, I am opposed to the killing of another human being, in any case. If I am sitting there with a shotgun on my right, and a taser gun on my left, "my" personal moral code says I should use the taser, and not kill them unless I absolutely have to, as a last resort. (philosophy) Believing both statements, that it is okay to kill them, and that you shouldn't, are not logically inconsistent.

And I have said multiple times I am for birth control and contraceptives.

It seems you are polarizing the issue, "except" you won't polarize the issue of whether or not it is killing.

And you are entitled to your opinion, but none of my views are extremist. I think you say that only because they are opposite, or further, than yours. And you consider yourself to be middle. I consider that a bit of an insult, as I consistently work hard to be open-minded, respectful, and try to see past the muddy arguments of both sides to the philosophical nature and truth to things.

I realize I may not represent the majority, although I never claimed to represent anything other than my own. And I also said, that is one reason that allows me accept the legality of it, as the majority believes the contrary, and its already been settled. But, I would offer this. Being the popular, or the majority opinion has nothing to do with whether something is or should be morally acceptable. And I would like to see what the majority would say, if they all took the time and energy to discuss these things at great length, and studied the philosophy, cultures, and history of humanity.