Reply #25: I should read that too, but you all should REALLY read 'Collapse', also by Diamond. I'll recommend [View All]

[codjh9]

it in another thread sometime soon. An examination of past cultures that failed, as well as some who didn't, and a look at some things happening today, with ominous portent if we don't wake up. Millions around the world ARE awake, but still not enough of us - to environmental and other related problems (food, water, oil, etc.).