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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 04:38 PM
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103. And this is the deal they struck only they ran into some impediments


President Rahm Obama bargained away the PO early on for guarantees of campaign donations coming to dems (especially Blue dogs) in the next elections rather than repubs.

The proof is that the WH, under Rahm Obama, pushed for the "trigger" option which is no PO at all, under the guise of courting Olympia Snowe (when it was actually the other way around) and became extremely angry when Reid wouldn't go for it.

Reid managed to get the support he needed for the "opt out" PO version which really angered the WH since they bargained away the PO already but couldn't absolutely guarantee it since some senators would never go for a trigger version because they knew that was no PO at all.

Enter Obama's mentor Joe Lieberman to kill the PO so now in order to get that 60th vote Reid is being forced to offer the trigger option and exchange Lieberman's vote for Snowe's vote...which is what the muted WH wanted all along and which we all know is no PO at all.

Many claim the PO will get added back in without a trigger during conference of House and Senate...but it won't.

What is most important to private ins. is there be no Public Option because that will open the door for gov. involvement in the HC ins. industry which could be expanded in the future and most certainly cause competition in that market. Private ins has already spent millions to stop reform and have told Rahm Obama if the PO passes there will be hell to pay come election time as they will pour money into the opposition.

Keep in mind Obama has used Lieberman to do this type of bidding before like when Lieberman made sure the torture photos could never be sown via the FOIA by slipping it into some other bill...when Obama could not get it done through the courts as the courts all concluded they should be revealed.

So we can expect to get a PO with a trigger option (which is no PO at all) trading Lieberman's vote for Snowe's as the 60th vote to break a republican filibuster so there will be an up or down vote...at which point Snowe can vote against the bill and Lieberman can vote for it just to save face.

The anti civil liberties Blue dog leader Rahm Emanuel is a good indication of the direction Obama is taking, along with Tim Geitner.
Paulson and Summers...and it is definitely not progressive.

Dawn Johnsen has yet to be confirmed to advise the president and there has yet to be an effort to de-Bushify the gov. especially our DoJ by replacing all the USAs appointed by Bush. (sorry Siegleman...if only you were a republican like Stevens, who is guilty, from Alaska who was not shackled and did not serve a day in jail before Holder jumped to make sure he was set free, you still have the "proven" corrupt judge and USA putting you in prison for 20yrs while Holder and Obama look the other way. Justice you can believe in)

What a mess Obama has to contend with...but such a big mess needs good advisers to help the president deal with it...and we get Rahm...which none of us would have elected to the office he now holds that's for sure.

Happy Thanksgiving. I am thankful for all the things that haven
't happened as much as I am for the things that have happened.

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