Reply #32: You're sticking words in my mouth, the fact is I didn't say anything about majority, etc. [View All]

[MadHound]

In fact I'll let the figures speak for themselves, there are intelligent people around here who can do the math.

What I did say is that your OP was disingenuous, that you were only giving out part of the facts, and proceeded to link to the rest of the facts. If you don't like those facts, take it up with Open Secrets:shrug:

Meanwhile, what is also a fact is that bundling happens in both parties, it is the way the campaign contribution game is played. Don't you think that if we damned Bush when he did it, we should at least be intellectually and ethically honest and damn it when Obama does it?

Here is some more information on Obama's bundling during his campaign. Again, I'll let you do the math.

"Senator Obama has benefited significantly from “bundling,” which involves supporters collecting smaller contributions, putting them all together, and giving them to a politician. According to Public Citizens’s White House for Sale Web site, Barack’s had 262 “bundlers” each gather at least $50,000 for him. One is Commonwealth Edison chairman Frank Clark. Perhaps the utility’s millions of customers who saw rates skyrocket by 24 percent on average wish he’d spend less time on politics and more on providing energy at a reasonable cost."

<http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Barack_Obama/Campaign_Financing>

"In addition, two oil industry executives are bundling money for Obama – drumming up contributions from individuals and turning them over to the campaign. George Kaiser, the chairman of Oklahoma-based Kaiser-Francis Oil Co., ranks 68th on the Forbes list of world billionaires. He's listed on Obama's Web site as raising between $50,000 and $100,000 for the candidate. Robert Cavnar is president and CEO of Milagro Exploration LLC, an oil exploration and production company. He's named as a bundler in the same category as Kaiser."

<http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_oil_spill.html>

Again, if we condemn the Republicans when they do it, shouldn't we be intellectually and ethically honest and condemn the Democrats when they do it as well?

What would be best is if we took corporate money out of government altogether via publicly financed campaigns. Then we wouldn't have to worry about corporate influence over our politicians.