To those who don't like my position in support of passing the Senate Health Care Bill [View All]

[CreekDog]

1) Calling me Republican, DLC and saying that politicians that I trust more than others (like Boxer, Sanders, etc.) are bought and paid for.

2) Lecturing me about how all I'm going to do is help the insurance industry.

You know they are not very convincing and it makes me wonder why you bother to post them.

I mean on this side, countless posters have tried to post language from the bill that addresses concerns. We've tried to explain what alternatives are available to us now and what aren't.

Now sometimes, we get arguments back saying, "but what about X weakness in the bill, won't that make things worse?". To me, that's a useful discussion to have.

But half the posts in opposition (and sometimes more) are just:

1) you/Senator X/you all are just sellouts. (even folks like Sanders, Boxer, etc.)
2) you just want to help the insurance industry

Not only is it not convincing, making me wonder what on earth you think you are accomplishing by making it. It also makes me convinced that you don't know me or what I care about and that further undermines the very arguments you are making.

Perhaps I shouldn't tip you off that your strategy is counterproductive to your own goals, but, well, I just want to show you how ineffective those talking points are.

And while ineffective is forgivable for a greater purpose, there is a bankruptcy of such screeds against those who are trying to argue on the basis of the bill and its circumstances. This leads me to think at times that some opponents who stoop to such vapid arguments are not really serious about working on health care or improving it because they won't argue seriously about it here.