Rover! Don't EVEN think of calling a New Yorker a traitor. Wow Read This

[BigBearJohn]

I'd like to ask Karl and his puppies to stand anywhere in the vincinity of Ground Zero and repeat Karl's fatuous, lying remarks to a crowd of New Yorkers.

Some people are misunderstanding the nature of the backlash against Karl Rove and his latest attack against fellow Americans. There's nothing planned about it. It is real, and it is huge. Karl Rove, widely described as the most corrupting, immoral, "pathological" political hack in a nation awash in immoral political hacks, has taken it upon himself to attack a broad and deeply patriotic swath of Americans, including troops in the field, New Yorkers who lost loved ones in the tower, and anyone else who might actually have issues with the incompetent manner in which George W. Bush has cowboyed around the world roundly making a mess of the war on terror.

This is because Karl Rove is, at heart, less a genius than simply someone who finds America's legal and ethical rules below him. He's a political Ted Bundy, and the Republicans treat him like their patron saint.

So please, don't tell the citizens of New York, don't tell liberals, and don't tell fellow Democrats that it's OK to be called traitors. It's not going to work. It's not bloggers or talk shows feuling this, it is a deep-seated rage at the audacity not of Karl Rove, but of the amoral and thuggish White House itself. New Yorkers, in particular, have just had some Beltway hack call their mothers, their fathers, their sons and their daughters traitors. You really think New Yorkers are going to put up with that crap? I'm surprised Karl Rove got out of the building with all his limbs.

SOURCE: http://www.dailykos.com/

[babylonsister]

1. Nominated. All those folks on DU who claim Dems have

been whiney about Rove's comments should read this. In this case, it's patriotic to whine, and Rove bears the mark of a cloven hoof. :grr:

[Skittles]

6. there's no whining from me

I am outraged and disgusted by that warmongering, chickenhawk piece of SHIT

[Donailin]

31. and his middle name is

Christian.

You can't make this shit up. It is precisely the Chritian value to turn the other cheek. Rove mocks the Son of God himself.

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[leveymg]

3. I'd come to Ground Zero to see that show. NY v. Rove - has a ring to it.

:7 :evilgrin: :mad: :bounce: :7 :+ B-) :) x( :-( ;-) :o }( ;( :P :evilfrown: :hippie: :party: :bounce: :mad: :eyes: :smoke: :think: :crazy: :wtf: :grr:

[Skittles]

4. Rove is a "political Ted Bundy"

AMEN to that

[barbaraann]

8. Ted Bundy was a Republican activist.

n/t

[Bluerthanblue]

29. so was

Timothy McViegh

[Fridays Child]

16. That was perfect!

[HEyHEY]

18. Except the "deep seated" part

[Must_B_Free]

30. soonto be a political Al Bundy

[kittykitty]

69. Oh, that is so clever! (Truely mean it)

[The Backlash Cometh]

5. kick

[ComerPerro]

7. Really. Isn't it interesting that New Yorkers, the ones ACTUALLY affected

by 9/11, voted for Kerry?

So, as others have pointed out, is Rove saying that many New Yorkers don't truly understand or appreciate the horror of 9/11?

[Maraya1969]

12. New York and New Jersey also

I was not living in Jersey when the Towers went down but my mother told me that one of the funeral homes their had 40 people waiting for a service. She said the papers were filled with obituaries. And New Jersey is as blue as New York.

I'd love to see Rove in front of a group of angry New Yorkers any day.

[ComerPerro]

14. Yeah, it would be nice to hear him or Bush say that line of crap

in front of New Yorkers

[Jersey Devil]

22. 694 from New Jersey died on 9/11

including more than 100 from my county, Bergen County. From Hudson County, directly opposite the WTC, more than 50 died from Hoboken alone.



If Rove shows his face around here I want a piece of him.

[flyarm]

56. I AM FROM MIDDLETOWN NJ..WE LOST MORE PEOPLE IN OUR TOWN

THAN ANYWHERE AND I will tell you..* is hated here!!

Middletown, America: One Town's Passage from Trauma To Hope
by GAIL SHEEHY

MAY THEY REST IN PEACE ..THE ANGELS OF 9/11 ..MANY MY CO-WORKERS WITH AMERICAN AIRLINES...AND MY LIFE LONG NEIGHBORS...

.........AND MAY * SPEND ETERNITY IN HELL!

[Maraya1969]

59. Wow, I grew up in Holmdel

I had been living in Florida for a few years when the Towers fell. Middletown and Holmdel are both Monmouth county - very badly hit.

When Bruce Springstein sang about a "Jersey Girl" he was NOT talking about a sweet as pie, always polite little lady.

And that is a good thing! I'm proud to be a Jersey girl even though I am living in a loop of the Bible Belt. I don't always get along with people here and if it weren't for the weather I'd move back.

And * and * and * would NOT like to listen what I had to scream at them!

[flyarm]

62. raised my children in holmdel ..and we lost many parents in

holmdel in 9/11..way too many!!..but i grew up in middletown!!

[leftynyc]

26. Don't forget Connecticut.

They must be spitting nails also.

[Clark2008]

34. And, also the District of Columbia.

Northern Virginia also went predominately Democratic, even if the southern part of the state drug it into the "red" category.

[FreedomAngel82]

58. Which is a pretty dumb statement from Rove

New York WAS HIT! Duh! I think it's pretty stupid to call someone who was actually effected by the event a traitor.

[bpilgrim]

9. he is POLITICIZING 911 and people are naturally REPULSED

they were planning to use this right after 911 if they got any static from the Dem's for the Patriot Act or Giving the War President his war Authority... problem is there was NONE.

now these thugs ain't got nuttin left and they are trying to pull this BS 4 years after the fact, after they got EVERYTHING they wanted and now everything they did is blowing up in their faces and NO-ONE is buying this 'brilliant' propaganda.

weTHEpeople are on to them!

thank GORE he 'invented' the INTERNETs :evilgrin:

peace

[understandinglife]

10. Bush, Rove & other neoconsters: You will not escape our rath or the law

Members of Congress, from left to right, Maxine Waters (D-Calif.), Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas), John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.), and Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) head down Pennsylvania Avenue to the White House, June 16, to deliver petitions demanding President Bush tell the truth on Downing Street Memo evidence that he lied to sell the Iraq war to the American people. http://www.pww.org/article/articleview/7266/1/275/

"... we sent our young people into harm's way without leveling with the American people." - Congresswoman Pelosi before Congress, 16 June 2005

Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us - One question, my fellow Americans, "Why is Bush not already in jail?"

[DinahMoeHum]

11. Wow, check out Mahablog's take on it, too (also on Dailykos)

www.mahablog.com

(snip)
Words cannot express the contempt I feel for Karl Rove and for the chorus of brainless little yappers applauding his recent remarks on liberal reactions to 9/11.

I'd like to ask Karl and his puppies to stand anywhere in the vincinity of Ground Zero and repeat Karl's fatuous, lying remarks to a crowd of New Yorkers.

Whole lotta liberals in New York. Whole lotta those liberal New Yorkers lost someone in the towers. Whole lotta liberal New Yorkers who lost someone in the towers might want to break Karl's jaw today. Karl would be well advised to keep his sorry ass out of New York from now on.

Junior got less than a quarter of the New York City vote last November, as I recall. Yeah, the people most closely affected by 9/11, who are most intimate with it, are less than impressed with Junior and his war on terra.

You have to go away from New York City, to places where people barely remember watching the towers collapse on television, to find people still willing to listen to the crap that spews out of Karl's mouth. All 9/11 means to them is an excuse to advance their hard right agenda and pound the stuffing out of Muslims. And any Muslims will do.

Justice for the dead of 9/11 went on the back burner as soon as Bush decided to invade Iraq. (9/12?)

I want Karl to apologize. Hell, I want him to apologize to me. Personally. Sincerely. And I want the yappy little puppies to look me in the eyes and say, Sorry, I guess we don't know you very well. We misjudged you. We take back what we said.

That karma wheel keeps turnin' children. Take care.
(snip)


:argh:

[Kolesar]

13. We have to go to Kos for threads for our Greatest page?

Think about it.

[Fridays Child]

15. What are you trying to say?

It's not like DKos material is the only stuff to make it to the Greatest page.

[Kolesar]

21. Kos goes to Mahablog, DU goes to Kos

It's recycled material.
an echo chamber
nicely written, though

[bloom]

17. It's not like all of the Greatest posts

are from Kos.

I don't have a problem with people bringing the best from other places here.



Or did I miss something?

[annabanana]

50. progressives have a supportive community

and the good work deserves to be spread as widely as possible...

[patricia92243]

65. Amen!!!

[I Have A Dream]

51. We're all one big community, and I don't have any problem...

with using anything from somewhere else if it inspires us to work harder and to see the difference that our efforts are making.

We're not in competition with them. They are our people.

[sendero]

19. Now THAT's what I'm talking 'bout...

... this is good. Damn good.

Put these sorry little play-men in their places.

[bunny planet]

20. Looks like Karl 'misunderestimated' what the response would be to his

latest heinous remarks.

[Disturbed]

23. If Rove said this shit in front of New Yorkers...

he would prolly get the Mussolin treatment. Look that up if you don't know what happened to that scumbag.

[pgh_dem]

24. Not to disagree with the sentiment...but wasn't the speech in NY?

To the Conservative Union of New York or something?
Was that not in NYC?

[Disturbed]

25. Yeah in NY safely inside with a bunch of

RW scum. Imagine him spouting this crap outdoors in Cental Park.

[bunny planet]

36. no need for me to look it up. I've seen the pics.

Gruesome. I'd rather he do the perp walk myself and stand trial for his role in these crimes.

[RetroLounge]

55. Oh, it'll happen some day, I fear...

RL

[Inland]

27. Big Karl Rove, "I'm going to war, new yorkers are wimpy on terror"

Pussy. Screwing up the war on terror, OBL gone, terrorists are recruiting, we are less safe, and he's making points against the poeple who really gave their all.

[Burried News]

28. After 9/11 ALL New Yorkers worked their asses off to restore services

They breathed toxic dust and gases and they endured all kinds of disruptions for extended periods and they lived in an unbelievable morbid environment. And all that time Karl was helping Bush take advantage of the situation. Not helping New Yorkers - calculating every possible advantage for the Coup to come. Nobody deserves to be used like this.

And now he comes back to New York because his schemes are imploding and he wanted to use New York once more? Karl you ain't got no class. Step off Karl, just step off dude.

[shifting_sands]

32. Camp Takeitall

Karl Rove is not and never has been a political genius any more than poor George can string a cognitive thought together. Baby Karl was hired years ago to be little George's camp buddy and both have been the recipients of Big Daddy and his buddies largess. They were both sent to "Camp TakeItAll" (some call it the White House) with promises that nothing bad would ever happen to them. All the "camp counselors" would watch out for them and protect them from any big bad wolves that might try to send them home. They were promised money, power, the votes, the media, everything to make their camp experience a successful one. They are the "kids" of the cartel and isn't it cute how hard they are working. They are bullies and inept thugs, they are 6th graders playing dress up. Daddy has the goods on anyone and everyone who might make their lives miserable, it doesn't take a genius to play in this game when you start out with all the playing pieces. No Baby Karl isn't a genius, not even close.

They're running the taxpayers money out to Daddy's friends with a hose directly attached to our gut, passing "GO" at record speed, so fast we don't even have time to ask how or why we got a "gut ache." We are all just sitting out here thinking they will care about us sooner or later, we just continue to remain astonished at what they are doing and about half of us think it must be ok, our politicians wouldn't hurt us. We keep thinking someone will catch them. Oh we've caught them but there isn't anything to do with them because all the camp counselors think they're cute and just hope to get some of that money. We don't care if there is a homosexual prostitute sleeping in the White House, if there is a porn star at fund raisers, if innocent people are pulled in to be tortured and die to make the movie more exciting, we don't care this, after all is "Camp TakeItAll"

Anyone who thinks these two yahoos are of genius status, they need to ask themselves how low their own bar of expectation falls.

[robert135]

33. We are wimps.....

Someone should physically kicked Carl Roves ass by this time. He is not being a politician he is being an ass hole and is begging for an ass kicking.

Why haven't we done it?

[I Have A Dream]

52. Hi, robert135; welcome to DU! Glad to have you here!

:hi:

[Vinca]

35. A "political Ted Bundy" - perfect description.

I'm still so mad about this I can barely stand it.

[mediaman007]

45. For a while I was thinking "Al Bundy"

Now I get it. :-•

[MODemocrat]

37. I hadn't realized the extent of Rove's stupidity

until this remark. It's obvious he's a school yard bully, and he has had people thinking he's pretty intelligent, but he just blew all that. He's nothing but the Wizard of Oz, fanning his dry ice while the blanket is falling around him. In other words, he's a complete fake.:freak: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Freedomfried]

38. Did 10 years on UDT/SEAL Teams

To be called a "traitor" by this 4-eyed fat fuck?

I'd like to chat with this Mr. Rove.

[MODemocrat]

54. Freedomfried, that really makes me angry

Who in the hell does Rove think he is? That old dipwad ass probably hasn't spent even one hour serving his country. If he loves that damned war, he needs to go over there and take his big mouth with him. There are many of us who would like to "chat" with him.

[Freedomfried]

64. People like Rove only serve themselves!

[Mythsaje]

39. Rove's comments

were perhaps the biggest political blunder of his career. And any Republican not smart enough to distance themselves from the comments are going to be cooking their own goose.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

40. Yep, Rove's struck a nerve...big-time. Somebody should drop him off....

...in the middle of Baghdad and let him go on a few unaccompanied patrols with no body armor.

[Eloriel]

41. Here's the permalink -- and a bone to pick with you, BigBearJohn

First, it's better to provide the permalink so people coming later (like tomorrow or a month from now) can find the original.

But the real bone is that the first paragraph you quote is actually from Mahablog. Now, that's obvious if someone goes to the original source, but credit really ought to have been given to Maha (who used to post here -- does she still? I haven't seen her in a while). I especially think this is important since the post got the 3 nominations required for inclusion on the Greatest page, and should thus get more exposure than a lot of DU threads.

[EVDebs]

42. A similar thread was posted at

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3941461#3941639

[Cha]

43. I said yesterday that this would

BACKFIRE, BIG TIME! Looks like it has.

Some DUers said this is what rove planned but I think he's given us a gift that will keep on giving.

Thanks, you stupid cow.

[David Zephyr]

44. Hey Karl Rove! 3,000 People Did Not Perish For Your Sick Politics!

:thumbsup:

[Nothing Without Hope]

48. Actually, I believe they did. I have become certain that the Bush cartel

either planned or deliberately allowed the 9/11 attacks to take place for their own political gain.

If you're reluctant to believe it, listen to David Ray Griffin's historic 1 hr 20 min Madison lecture. Video and audio are available online, as is MUCH other information. This isn't tinfoilhattery.

Links in this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x39690
Thread title: David Ray Griffin evidence Bush admin complicit in 9/11 - update & links

[tomg]

46. Wrote to Bloomberg

Got this reply:

Thank you for contacting the City of New York. Your message has been forwarded to the appropriate Agency for review and handling.


For future reference, your Service Request Number is 1-1-176342490.


Sincerely,


The City of New York



This is an auto-generated system message. Please do not reply to this message. Messages received through this address are not processed.


Thank you.

I hope they have an agency for firing Rove's ass

[Straight Shooter]

47. Congratulate yourself, Rove. Hoist on your own petard. n/t

[Festivito]

49. "There's nothing planned about it." - my eye! It's a smoke screen.

Hiding the DSM and Sibel.

Every mention of Rove's comments should include reference to the memos at least. Both his complicity in failing 9/11 and his lying us into war -- both -- should be mentioned each time Rove's comments get responses.

[CBHagman]

53. And the city that beheld what happened on 9/11...

...did vote 75 percent for Kerry, if I am not mistaken. In other words, if the city saw the horror of the attacks and yet did not back Bush, then they obviously were not persuaded by the dog-and-pony show cum hate-fest last September. I noticed, too, that Bush put off going to New York until the last minute (probably for effect, but it also makes me think he simply hates the place) and then went right to Pennsylvania after accepting the nomination.

Don't try to pull crap on New Yorkers. It isn't going to fly.

[FreedomAngel82]

57. Great response!

That was perfect!

[FreedomAngel82]

60. Did anybody see two 9/11 family survivors on Hardball?

Dembloggers.com has two people who had family members who died on 9/11. They were pretty good and talked about the things Bush isn't doing. The guy who was on told how he is working on getting better boarder protection and that Bush is against it. He's just waiting for another attack.

[grace0418]

61. I've truly never before experienced the kind of visceral

loathing that I feel towards Karl Rove. In some ways even more than Dumbass and Dick. Evil just seems to emanate out of his very pores. I truly and completely despise him and would feel absolutely no sympathy for him whatsoever if karma came and bit him in the ass. I know that's bad karma for me to say that about another human being, but I really wonder if he even is human.

[opihimoimoi]

63. Rove and Bush make the UNITER Claim ring so Shallow/Hollow

Look at the Evidence.....its all there...everything they say has a "DIVISIVE EFFECT"....

"Peters" of the Worst Degree they are.

[meti57b]

66. rove attacked the NY Fire Department with his unconscionable comment, too.

[Olney Blue]

67. I have nothing but contempt

for this outrageous assault on half the U.S. population.


Rove's arrogance is unbelievable, and the shameless political use of one of the greatest tragedies in our country's history (occurring on their watch) speaks volumes. Ironically, the conservatives' LACK of understanding of the enemy have fueled an increasingly dangerous world.

:banghead:

[natrat]

68. dare that fat little fucker to repeat it

[gulliver]

70. Good point. Anyone who says they agree with Rove should repeat ...

... what he said. Better not do it in front of me.

[libodem]

71. this is my big surprise

I hear the guy is married...I really thought he was a homosexual, not that homosexuals don't marry for cover...I just never thought he had a wife...who is Mrs KKK? Why don't we know more about her?....He has a son too...who hasn't joined the armed forces? what gives. (no gay slamming intended) I just thought he seemed effeminate and all his hubris and bluster was to cover it up.....same for Limbaugh just seems like a big sissy pants to me....