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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:23 AM
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Clinton, Obama play to a raucous crowd

Clinton, Obama play to a raucous crowd
She says she will champion the middle class. He compares their campaign promises. Both pledge to heal the party if they lose

Rob Christensen, Staff Writer
RALEIGH - The N.C. Democratic Party's annual Jefferson-Jackson Dinner usually has the air of ritual. On Friday night, it reflected the aggression of the hardest-fought presidential primary race in decades. Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton spoke late Friday at Dorton Arena before a crowd of 5,000 charged-up, chanting party activists. Obama tried to hold his diminishing lead in North Carolina while Clinton mounted a late push to make the state "a game-changer."

The candidates were facing their most important audience in Tuesday's presidential primary: the powerful superdelegates who could determine the nomination, and activists who must decide whether to rally to the eventual winner.

For the first time in the North Carolina primary, Obama drew sharp contrasts between himself and Clinton. He said he had not accepted campaign contributions from political action committees and Washington lobbyists, or adopted poll-tested positions, and had always opposed the war in Iraq.

"Real changes have never been easy," Obama told a raucous crowd. "The status quo doesn't give up without a fight. The status quo in this country are not just Republicans."

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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:30 AM
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1. K&R - Obama was on fire last night. n/t
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:38 AM
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2. Ah, the subtle difference between fire and mere hot air.
Funny how some cannot perceive it.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 09:22 AM
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4. Yes, and you are proof of that!
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 02:25 PM
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9. So true. And perhaps some day you will. n/t
Edited on Sat May-03-08 02:26 PM by ms liberty
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:44 AM
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3. can someone please tell me what "real change" Obama wants to make?
I have seen him play the same old politics. I have seen his stance on the issues. I see that he says one thing and does another--lobbyists. I see that his surrogates are the same old ones that democratic candidates have every season.

What Change is he talking about?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:01 AM
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5. Asked and answered numerous times, but you know that:
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:16 AM
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6. There is no "there" there.
"Different campaign" --have not seen it. Indeed shouting "Racism!" from the rooftops is not change I want to see as he divides the democratic party along racial lines.

Ethics reform: the dems were pushing that through long before Obama--it was our idea not his.

little substance for the "change"
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:25 AM
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7. Just because you don't like the answers doesn't mean they're not
there. Go piss on someone else's thread, k?

How Obama defied Reid and got real ethics reform passed
by: beachmom
Fri Feb 08, 2008 at 9:17:17 AM EST

(Please note that Senator Webb was one of the courageous senators on ethics reform, too. -- Beachmom)

There's been a lot of excitement about the Obama movement, coupled with some detractors out there saying Obama is all style and no substance. My response to that is to look at ethics reform, an issue no one should scoff at as corruption was the #1 reason Congress changed hands in 2006. It just so happens that Barack Obama played a big role in getting ethics reform done. Not only that, I would like to focus on some key votes which show like night and day, the difference between Obama and Clinton. Obama had to log some courageous votes that amounted to rebellion against the Democratic leadership -- Reid and Durbin -- while Hillary Clinton chose not to rock the boat. Come along with me, and I will share the tale.

http://www.raisingkaine.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=12761

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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:01 AM
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8. This is a democratic board where people with different views come
if you want to just have a place where everyone agrees with you--why not just e-mail yourself?
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