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immune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 03:44 PM
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Geraldo Rivera Runs 9/11 Truth Segment on World Trade Center 7
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 05:18 PM
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1. Rivera found his next Capone vault
Szamboti flat out lied about the descent of WTC 7.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 07:20 AM
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5. No he didn't.
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tetedur Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 10:50 AM
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10. A more appropriate analogy would be the 1975 broadcast of Robert Groden's copy of the Zapruder film
on "Goodnight America." That show was a revelation for many who had never seen the film before.

Szamboti stated that the WTC 7 building was in freefall descent for eight stories at gravitational acceleration for 2.25 seconds. That is exactly what NIST found in their Final Report on page 48.

http://wtc.nist.gov/NCSTAR1/PDF/NCSTAR%201A.pdf





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Christopfer7 Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:38 AM
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18. That's page 45 [pdf pg 87]
David Chandler is the high school teacher who caught NIST lying about free fall acceleration. They made the correction but glibly claimed that it was consistent with their model even though Shyam Sunder had said in a briefing:
"a free fall time would be an object that has no structural components below it . . . there was structural resistance that was provided in this particular case. And you had a sequence of structural failures that had to take place. Everything was not instantaneous."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3mudruFzNw
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tetedur Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:49 AM
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19. Thank you for the correction on the page number.
I knew it was page 45, but fingers don't obey sometimes.

You are also correct about Chandler. Szamboti reiterated what NIST had to admit because of Chandler's work. And the "outrage" is directed at Szamboti, (he is called a liar), instead of NIST for "overlooking" the obvious implications of freefall gravitational acceleration that occurred in that building.

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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 12:14 AM
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20. do you get paid by the word? just saying.
I'm here infrequently. It seems to be your line of work.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 05:44 PM
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2. Thanks immune! nt
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immune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 05:45 PM
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3. You betcha.
Its getting interesting.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 06:06 PM
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4. Whoraldo finds something new to line his pockets on the easily
fooled.

Hardly even qualifies as news.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 09:39 AM
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6. Deny all you want deniers 7 was not brought down by fire alone.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 09:42 AM
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7. Great...
present your evidence. Why is that so hard? And, by the way, you're a science-denier, dude.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 09:44 AM
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8. Dude, funny. How old are you ten?
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 09:46 AM
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9. Old enough to know that...
evidence, not idle speculation, is what counts.

By the way, I'm 11. I'll be twelve on my next birthday. Can you come to my party?

Duh.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 01:19 AM
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11. Interesting ... Rivera has been left and right -- and now left again?
But, glad to see that 9/11 Truth has gotten yet more acceptance --

even if from Rivera!
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 11:46 AM
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12. There is nothing "left" about 9/11 Truth n/t
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 01:25 AM
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16. If not left....
They must be right.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 12:04 PM
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17. You might be surprised how many rightwingers push 9/11 Truth. n/t
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immune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 11:58 AM
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13. I remember hearing Jesse Ventura
being interviewed on the radio some time after 911 and he tore into people who denied Bin Laden was behind it. Somewhere along the line, he caught on.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 12:36 PM
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14. Ventura and Rivera should get together on this ....
and while I don't follow either one, I do appreciate that for anyone notable

it's a lot to take on --

I really think that, like the JFK coup, the public didn't need much in the way

of a push to begin questioning and challenging it.

But in both cases, we've benefitted from very knowledgeable and effective people

privately investigating and advising the public.

Meanwhile, there is only one way the right wing can rise -- or hold onto power --

and that's by political violence -- stolen elections -- lies.



:)

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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 10:35 PM
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15. Rivera has been around conspiracy stuff before

I believe if he has someone who is personally involved, he tends to be more open minded.

LBJ Mistress on JFK assassination
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2334637168204169083 (43 minutes in I believe)

Radio Host who interviewed DC Madame

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6O0ruFmfE

Or in the OP's case victims families questioning the official story,
the usual FOX tune has been to slam criticism by invoking the victims families card.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 02:01 AM
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21. The Madeleine Brown link didn't work for me, but ....
Edited on Mon Nov-22-10 02:12 AM by defendandprotect
Here's a link to one of her interviews -- it's a long interview and this

is only one part of it -- I've watched a few and think this is the most complete --

but I haven't seen them all --

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79lOKs0Kr_Y

Meanwhile, if they hadn't killed her son by LBJ, evidently we would never have heard

all of this!

Checking the DC Madame link --

Thanks!

:)



Re Palfrey -- agree with what was said -- too coincidental.

Seems that if info is to be released, it has to be done immediately.

Not that they probably wouldn't take revenge on you -- but get it out there!

And Rivera calling Jones "flamboyant" -- !!!
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