Pssst ... he's at Twenty six fucking percent. What the fuck is WRONG with you?????????

[Stinky The Clown]

Twenty Six Percent.

Say it.

SAY IT!

You guys are politicians. You know what numbers like that mean.

Twenty Fucking Six Percent of this country still support this guy.

He's at Twenty Six Fucking Percent and he's kicking your asses.

SEVENTY FOUR PERCENT of this country are essentially on your side.

PUSH BACK.

Cite for contempt.

Subpoena the motherfuckers and cite them for contempt when they thumb their noses at you.

He is NOT a fucking king.

What the fuck is WRONG with you?????????

[133724]

1. SHIT Nixon wa at 28%...

[wildhorses]

2. they draw a paycheck whether they do their job or not

and while they are at it may as well get a raise :wtf:

[msongs]

3. shhhh! quiet, you'll wake em up. some of em are 2 busy running for president nt

[davidwparker]

4. collusion? that's my only explanation. n/t

[Warren Stupidity]

8. It is the simplest explanation for the facts at hand.

The question is "now what do we do"?

[davidwparker]

12. I'm thinking about that myself. We had hopes that those elected to

get us out of Iraq -- the freshmen -- would follow through. That really didn't happen. So, it seems hopefuls become like "them."

Right now, I've stopped making excuses for what the Dem leaders do -- call it collusion or call it enabling. It is what is looks like it is.

What's your thoughts?

[Warren Stupidity]

13. Honestly I am simply filled with outrage and despair.

I don't know what our next move is. Where are our leaders? Where is our Martin? Our Malcom? Our Bobby? We've tossed Cindy to the wolves, and perhaps in all honesty she simply burnt out waiting for us to join her on the streets. I am open to suggestions but I simply have none to give. Sorry.

[ClassWarrior]

23. It's the stupidest explanation for the facts at hand.

I thought it was the other party that was into simplistic, wild-eyed explanations.

NGU.

[Usrename]

31. Ok, let's hear the complicated explanation then.

If you have one.

I don't think it's all that bad of an explanation. We know that Lieberman was not all that unusual in the party leadership. There are dozens, perhaps even hundreds, just like him that are leading the party. And they love the whole Bush Doctrine, including the war, the illegal wire-taps, the tax-cuts for the rich, tough bankruptcy laws for the poor, you know, the whole entire ball-o-crap. None of them even admit that they have a problem with Lieberman, even now that he has been exposed for what he is. Obama sees him as a mentor for chrissakes.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/connecticut/articles/2006/03/31/obama_rallies_state_democrats_throws_support_behind_lieberman/

Unless you have a more complicated explanation.

[Warren Stupidity]

47. Thank you. I note the total lack of response. nt.

[bbgrunt]

25. it may not be collusion, but simply that they are beholden to the same puppet masters.

[immoderate]

49. And they have the politics to deal with. They don't need to collude.

They are molded by the same forces, and their reactions are circumscribed by political influences. It is "emergent behavior" in the language of chaos theory.

--IMM

[Warren Stupidity]

50. They don't have to collude in the sense of a back room conspiracy.

Chomsky laid out the mechanisms of how this works quite a long time ago, the work is Manufacturing Consent. Collusion does not require an active conspiracy.

[yardwork]

62. Yes. They all get their campaign funding from the same sources.

Without corporate money, nobody can be a viable candidate for president or senator or even a congressperson. We have a system where the corporations pay the piper and call the tunes and there isn't that much that we can do about it unless we address the underlying problem.

[personman]

65. Just happen to have a copy...

http://www.anarchismtoday.org/index.php?name=News&catid=1&page=2

:)

[truedelphi]

56. Um, but the politics are on the side of acting against this Administration

When someone with the stature of Jonathan Turley says that Gonzo could have been gone yesterday - what does that indicate??

John Dean was remarking to Boxer weeks ago as to what could be happening. He would know - he saw a king laid bare before - and he knows how it goes, what is needed to make it happen.

My only conclusion is collusion.

[MadMaddie]

5. You tell em....Twenty Fucking Six Percent

it's not rocket science....what are they waiting for?

[MrMickeysMom]

6. If your words are not taken seriously, these people are not leaving...

My husband's been telling me this for a long time. These fucking people are NOT going to go quietly, or they're NOT going to go at all. And THIS is after Skeletor came out with the big gut feeling warning about another attack.

Then, what? It's going to be pretty bad for a lot of reasons, that's fer sure.

I believe it now.

Wake the fuck up...


:boring:: :spank: boring:::spank: boring:::spank: boring::spank: :boring:spank: ::boring:

[Warren Stupidity]

7. Well Husb2Sparkly I'd say that our opposition party

refuses to oppose and the simplest explanation for that is that our party is completely corrupted with significant portions of its leadership and its congressional delegation in cahoots with the party in power. What is your explanation?

[Stinky The Clown]

9. Could be that ..... could be .....

... spaghetti legs ....... could be inexperienced leadership ...... could be fear ...... could be blackmail ..... could be a lot of things we've heard or read.

I wish I knew.

I fear most your theory. And in that regard I confess fear. Fear of thinking it true.

[Warren Stupidity]

10. I confess hopeless outrage.

Long experience forces me to accept the simplest explanation until it is proven false. I reject Nader's perscription, I am compelled to accept his analysis.

[Major Hogwash]

11. Maybe they're waiting for Bush to resign of his own accord.

Honestly, this summer has been so full of bad news about the Justice Department, the Surgeon General, the collusion of commuting Libby's sentence, the failure to comply with Congress' subpoenas, and the continuing fiasco of Iraq that it's hard to understand what the Democrats are waiting for.

Bush's base is made up of fanatics that will never admit that Bush ever did anything wrong, so waiting for them to come around to reality is simply futile.

[Vanje]

54. Why shoud Bush resign?

Emperors dont resign.

Without checks and balances on presidential powers, its not a democracy.

[LibertyorDeath]

14. Anthrax

n\t

[MuseRider]

15. You know,

I used to think that. It made sense since I could not at that time bear the thought that they were in collusion with the maladministration.

Know what? They can't do them all at once. If they stand together they can't do it to all of them without the gradually awakening public going WTF only Democrats? I just can't give them that excuse anymore. Stand together and DO SOMETHING!

[TheDebbieDee]

16. "They can't do them all at once."

You're right. Someone should remind the Dems of that fact.

But, if the Dems don't start doing a better, smarter job of pushing back - well then anything is possible............

[Stinky The Clown]

38. Of COURSE they can't do it all at once. But they CAN do ONE thing all together.

I almost don't care what that one thing is so long as it is a high priority and directly against Bush.

[Jackpine Radical]

64. I think you missed what Muserider was saying.

The point I took was that the Puggies can'd "do" all the Dems at once with anthrax (or whatever). People would tend to notice if only Dems started dying off. If the Dems stand together, they can prevail.

I don't know that I agree with MR, but I think that was the idea of the post.

[Stinky The Clown]

67. By Jove, I think you're right!

[MuseRider]

69. Thanks JR

that is what I meant. I think that even the 26% know that these guys would do anything to keep themselves on the top and out of trouble. I think it might be noticeable if the Democrats started dropping like flies. I guess they could take out a few "trouble maker" Republicans to make it look right but I don't think anyone would buy that anymore.

[LibertyorDeath]

30. Good point

but fear can be very debilitating.

I wish they would "Stand together and DO SOMETHING!"

[rudy23]

17. Soldiers are risking their lives every day

If they're willing to send troops to Iraq to be brave in the face of death, then goddammit, they should be willing to be brave, too!

[Vanje]

18. Afraid Fox News might say something uncomplimentary

[rufus dog]

19. First thing

Harry Reid needs to be removed IMMEDIATELY, If Pelosi doesn't step up then she needs to go too. The leadership needs to LEAD, then the others will follow.

[Vanje]

41. No. Reid and Pelosi do not need to be removed

Reid and Pelosi do not need to be removed. They just need to be gently goaded into doing their jobs.

[Harry Monroe]

42. Gently goaded???

WTF, they have been "gently goaded" for quite some time now!!! They need to be hit over the fuckin' head with a baseball bat to get their attention. If they don't want to do the jobs they were elected to do then they should resign and make way for Democratic leadership that WILL do their jobs. These people are my employees and I don't see them doing the jobs that we elected them and pay them for. Enough is Enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Vanje]

45. Realistically,I dont think they're going to let you inthe congresional offices witha baseballbat

I dont think they're going to let you in the congresional offices with a baseball bat.
I'm betting they'll decine your invitation to resign their offices.
You'll need a Plan B.
My suggestion is write letters, emails and call em.

[Harry Monroe]

59. I was speaking figuratively, sheesh!!!!

Didn't you get that?? It was not supposed to be literal. Your idea of "gentle goading" BTW, how is that working out for us?? OK then.

[Stinky The Clown]

60. What jobs were Reid and Pelosi elected to do that they have not done?

[rufus dog]

66. He is to lead the Senate

What has he done to lead on Impeachment, Iraq, or Immigration. Do you feel that he comes across as a charasmatic strong leader? The General Public knows him as the guy who said we lost. You can blame it on the media, whomever, he stepped in it and does not come out swinging.

[Stinky The Clown]

68. No one ran on impeachment.

I wish they did, but they didn't.

He was elected to be the Senator from Nevada.

His peers chose him as leader. Not you. Not me. So far as I know, he took no particular stance to win that election. He is a tough guy, meek sounding voice notwithstanding.

Is he the best leader we've ever had? Probably not.

Doing the job for which he was elected? Probably so.

[MsMagnificent]

52. Good luck with that

Let me know how it works out.

[KurtNYC]

46. that's like being afraid that the sun might rise tomorrow morning eom

[OwnedByFerrets]

20. EVERYONE....and yes, Im yelling......

forgets that every politician has been illegally wiretapped for years and every secret they have is being used against them. Who among you have NOTHING to hide?
No, I dont have facts to back this up, but this cabal has proven itself willing and capable of pulling this off.
The other thing that seems to be overlooked is that these ppl have familys and I dont put blackmail past these criminals in the whitehouse. And they have Blackwater on the payroll. You think they are scared of threatening a senator? I dont.
Is this more than speculation? NO. But it sure would answer questions as to why our democrats are such wimps.

[DearAbby]

21. I tend to think...you're right n/t

[flyarm]

33. i think you ring the bell!..ding ding ding!! eom

[Hawkowl]

51. Agreed

I've speculated the last few years that this is the only thing that could produce such inexplicable inaction and "look the other way" behavior of our elected representatives.

No it isn't a conspiracy theory because the administration has already defiantly admitted they are listening and wire tapping everyone without warrants.

[IndianaGreen]

22. They won't even impeach Gonzales!

They are making the Vichy French look good by comparison.

[ClassWarrior]

24. Great idea!! Let's call them names!! Sure is a lot easier than the hard work of saving our country!!

:eyes:

NGU.

[IndianaGreen]

27. Want to save the country? Want to prevent a US-Iran war? Then impeach Cheney!

Tell Pelosi to put impeachment on the table, and tell Conyers to get off his ass and hold hearing on H Res 333, the Cheney impeachment resolution introduced by Dennis Kucinich.

[ClassWarrior]

29. I agree. So explain to me how you educate people by calling them names.

NGU.

[KurtNYC]

48. comparison is not name calling

especially when it is an interesting, albeit slightly exaggerated, comparison.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vichy_France

[sabbat hunter]

55. impeachment

takes time. the democratic party has controlled the house for about 7 months now. It took 2 years for impeachment hearings to reach the point of an impeachment resolution with Nixon and Watergate.

I dont want it to take that long obviously, but we have to not rush the process either.

[krkaufman]

26. Right. Not just 26% support... but 66% DISAPPROVAL, IIRC.

Disapproval of Bush is consuming all but the staunchest of sheeple. Less than 10% are in the middle, between approval and disapproval.

[fooj]

28. Marginalized by 26%! How's that working for ya?

Unf*ckingbelievable.

[ripple]

32. If only we controlled 74% of Congress.

Or even 60% in the Senate and 55% in the House.

74% would rock, though! :hi:

[ClayZ]

34. K and R

[Eurobabe]

35. It's summer vacation , leave them alone

:sarcasm:

[Donald Ian Rankin]

36. Politics has a time-lag in it; his effective level of support is 49%; more if you count Lieberman

Bush's unpopularity now doesn't matter; what will count is how people view him and the other Republicans in a year and a half.

[Perry Logan]

37. Dude--politics is not an action movie.

Please give the "proving your manhood meme" a rest.

[Stinky The Clown]

39. Dude, thanks for your concern.

My manhood?

Whatever .... dude. :eyes:

[HughBeaumont]

40. Corporations.

That's what's wrong with EVERY damned thing in this country.

They've bought all politicians. Their lobbying has leveraged all monetary advantage towards them, seemingly forever.

One party happens to be less compassionate than the other, yet both know who butters their bread.

Think he isn't royalty?

Let's get a million of us to storm Lafayette Park and the Blight House and demand his removal. You know, like most European and South American countries not under totalitarian rule would have done by now.

Now what do you think will happen?

THEIR military (not the rank-and-file in VietRaq) would fire on American citizens, since those million would be declared "enemy combatants", with the real reason being they're "BAD FOR BUSINESS". And the Democratic run congress would do not a single thing about it. Why?

Because Corporations run this country, not the people.

Everything surrounding them is a business. For profit. For them. Fuck us. This war. This economy. "Free Trade". Contracts. Future occupations. New patents. All for them.

And they're going to grab as much loot from the citizens before the shithouse goes up in flames.

It is collusion, make no mistake about it.

[kath]

75. yep - government of the corporation, by the corporation and for the corporation.

:cry: :cry:

[underpants]

43. Come on honey give me one more chance I swear I won't hit you again

Now let me get another drink and stop crying already!

[Totally Committed]

44. That IS about where we are with this effing situation, isn't it?

Very astute.

TC

[rateyes]

53. What the fuck is wrong with them? Easy to answer:

F.E.A.R.

POWER without the COURAGE to use it, is useless.

[pacalo]

57. Exactly! Could the no-impeachment attitude have something to do with NSA activities???

And bribes???

Letting the boy king's blatant corruption slide is too surreal.

[AntiFascist]

58. ...and what's the approval rating of Congress? n/t

[yellerpup]

61. EXACTLY what I have been thinking.

Use it or lose it. Fight for us or at least fight to maintain your own power. As Stinky says, "He is NOT a fucking king."

Edit to add: K&R!

[democratdoug]

63. We, the people, should stage the biggest freaking march on the Whitehouse...

ever witnessed, along with the Democratic Presidential nominee and let bushco know his days are NUMBERED!! Count me in!!
Stupid freaking Bush says give him 2 months to let the troops surge work!...WHAT!!! We have given him 5 YEARS and hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars!!!! He has made a MESS!! He should be JAILED!! They have their own personal agenda!! It's the same rhetoric OVER and OVER!! Congress is not doing anything to stop him! It's time WE did something!! If 74% of the people are really opposed to this, it should be a SLAM DUNK!! Any other suggestions? I would love to hear them.

:toast:

[EVDebs]

70. He's whining about not being 'loved' but media push the 'courageous' * at us

and my nausea begins. History will judge * cruelly. Not even that PBS author guy Michael Beschloss

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Beschloss

(wife tied to Carlyle Group)

can rescue this Harvard MBA clown from a fate worse than death, eternal ridicule.

[BrklynLiberal]

71. That should be the headline on any legitimate newspapers this week!!!!

:headbang: :yourock:

[nankerphelge]

72. You should not issue a subpoena....

without being prepared to enforce it.

[texpatriot2004]

73. I do not understand the reticence to impeach nm

[Marrak]

74. Most birds know not to...

Shit in their nests!
:hurts:

But not the Chimp...
:shrug:

He's been "seen" to fling his shit indiscriminately...
:nuke:

Investigations will continue for generations...
:patriot:

History will disembowel the bastard...
:wow:

If we make it through the next 18 months.
:hide:

[hatrack]

76. With all due respect, HUSB2SP, we're worried about the Drooling Blonde because . . . .

. . . why?

[Dr Fate]

77. Most of the DEM leaders are not tough or crafty enough to pull it off.

I'm not saying these certain DEMS cant still find their spines- hope springs eternal...

[Indenturedebtor]

78. I don't buy the fear excuse

There are hundreds of congress men and women... among them I can name about 3 that consitently act with courage (unnamed to avoid a side argument).

As far as I'm concerned the rest of them are in collusion with the corporations. Blackmail could be trumped by exposing it: all it would take is a little courage. Anthrax thing? Same thing, just expose the threat and then if anything happens it would be known who did it.

It's all about the money money money money. I bet that if they don't get the money in this life their children and childrens' children have been promised cushy jobs and "trust funds" of sorts forever... to those that seriously resist the pull of campaign money etc.

Besides the media is utterly owned, the DOJ is owned, the prison system is owned, the healthcare system is owned, the school system is being privatized, the voting machines are owned, waste disposal is owned, water is owned, electricity is owned, the internet is now becoming owned, the POTUS is owned, and we are all fucking owned owned owned! Why not the Congress? Wouldn't that be somewhat out of form?

All your base are belong to them.

What do we own? The right to work to pay off debt that we acquired for the right to work to accrue more debt? I don't own the shirt on my back and i've worked very hard my nearly 30 years and done everything i was supposed to do. I'm fucking owned.

GAHHHHHHH HATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

We're all indentured servants from the day we are born. They've won until we change the rules. This game is I'm afraid over and was over before I was born. Your congress people are simply tools of the machine now. No 535 random americans are quite that wussified. Please, I know about two dudes that haven't gotten in a fight or many over the course of their lives, or told their bosses to go fuck him/herself without having another job lined up. They. Are. With. Them. Not. Us. :mad: