Obama Faces White Resistance In South, Polls Show

[billbuckhead]

Obama Faces White Resistance In South, Polls Show

Columbia, S.C. -- Barack Obama is heading into the January 26 South Carolina Democratic primary powered by a solid lead in each of the most recent 11 polls taken here, with African American voters and a slice of the white electorate set to put him over the top next Saturday.

While Obama is expected to pick up one out of five white Democratic primary voters, his margin among such voters in this deep Southern state lags from three to fourteen percentage points behind his support among whites nationally, depending on the survey. This lag, which appears at present to hold across the entire South, challenges one of the central claims of the Obama campaign: that he is a more viable general election candidate than Hillary Clinton.
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Just finding this out?

[Essene]

1. WOW WHAT A SURPRISE. No really.

[panader0]

17. My thought too

[LisaL]

40. Shocking, ain't it?

It appears that either Hillary or Obama will be the candidate going into the general election. Now, the question is, which one is more "electable," if we are to have a democratic president in 2008.

[DJ13]

2. I would have thought the Democratic Party was above this

Sadly, I guess I was wrong.

Thanks Hillary for being so willing to make race an issue.

[NOLALady]

18. Hillary cannot be blamed in this instance.

This would be the case with or without Hillary, with or without his race as an issue. Sadly.

[Nedsdag]

24. Don't blame Hillary?

Whose surrogates were spouting things such as "madrassa," "drug dealing," "dice rolling?"

[NOLALady]

28. They do not need Hillary's references to

"drug dealing", etc. to find a reason to not vote for Obama. Maybe in your area of the South they do, but not in mine.
I have talked to "middle class" folk in this area who are barely getting by. Two and three jobs. One illness from homlessness. They agree with me on just about every point, until we start talking taxes. They will tell me how important it is for the rich to have all that money. They then make a point to get into RW talking points, so that I wouldn't confuse them with the commie libruls.

[niceypoo]

38. Define "surrogate"

then expain this:
http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=26815&referer=sphere_related_content">Obama Plays the Race Card

...and this:
http://cliffpotter.newsvine.com/_news/2008/01/14/1225281-obama-the-great-divider-smears-the-clintons-">Obama the great divider smears the Clintons

...and this:
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/1/12/16352/5684">Obama's play of the race card will destroy his own "hopes"

...and this:
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/12148">Obama surrogates playing a dangerous game of race and gender

When you finish reading about what the Obama, "surrogates" are doing, we can talk.

[yourout]

3. Doesn't matter.........fuck the south. Obama can win in the West and Midwest which is better than..

Kerry did.

[jackson_dem]

8. Let's nominate a candidate who can win everywhere...

[awaysidetraveler]

27. Respectfully sir, from a relative of Samuel Clemens, who also has lived North and South.

The southern racists are entirely members of the GOP.
A few, I am ashamed to admit, are members of my family.
To a man, the racists I have met are old, obese men who drink too much.
Most of them vote, and most of them do so with their racist drinking buddies.

None of these men would ever--ever--ever vote for a democrat.
While everything that can be done to correct them should be done,
there is no sense in pandering to their politics.
They are a miniature dying minority of southern whites,
who also require a better example.

[amandabeech]

47. Probably not going to happen in this cycle for either party. n/t

Let's just get someone who can tally up enough electoral votes.

Me, I like Edwards, but it's not looking good tonight.

I have no clue which of the leading candidates will do better come November, particularly since I think that the issue is going to be the economy. Economics has not been a big issue with the two front runners until very recently, and it's hard to see how things will play out come November.

I don't like one of Obama's economic advisors, however.

[still_one]

9. and Kerry lost the general election also. My sentiments are with you though

but reality tells me something else

[Herman Munster]

15. how does he win the west

he can't win latinos.

[NOLALady]

30. Are you saying that

Latinos would vote Republican if Obama wins the nomination?

[still_one]

4. Well, if that is the case then nixon's southern strategy is still alive and well

and most likely we will lost the south whether it is Obama or Clinton. I do not know how much influence Edwards has in the South. It sure didn't help Kerry in 2004, so it doesn't look good

[sniffa]

5. Your threads and posts have caused me to have to like

vomit in my mouth.

[sandnsea]

44. A definite trend I've noticed too, but

Mercer definitely does not support vomit in the mouth. You shame your candidate with such talk.

(I just hate that expression, lol)

:hi:

[FrenchieCat]

6. White Democrats face resistance in the South.......history shows!

[jackson_dem]

10. Bill Clinton won the South

[still_one]

13. Only because Ross Perot entered the race, that won't happen this time /nt

[billbuckhead]

16. Especially if Bloomberg enters

[still_one]

23. The wind will blow both ways with Bloomberg, but I suspect it will hurt the Democrats more

However, in spite of what the MSM says, I do NOT think he will enter the race

[LisaL]

41. Hah? Bloomberg could very well get a lot of republicans to vote

for him.

[comradebillyboy]

43. Bloomberg will win the south??????????????

[jackson_dem]

19. Perot was a non-factor in 1996 when Clinton win the South

[NOLALady]

25. I think Sistah Souljah helped him there.

[jackson_dem]

7. Both Clinton and Obama hurt themselves by playing the race card

[still_one]

14. I agree with you 100% on that one. It will come back to bite both of them

especially in the South

[jackson_dem]

21. Obamites thought Obama would have a free lunch. Gain black votes, losing nothing with whites

[awaysidetraveler]

29. No sir, we believed and believe that Obama will be the next president of our beloved U.S. of A.

[NOLALady]

11. Imagine That?

Who'd thunk it?

[THUNDER HANDS]

12. South Faces Resistence In Face Of 21st Century

headline should read.

[David Zephyr]

20. Yeah, the Dixicrats are still around. They just dropped the name.

.

[jackson_dem]

22. They must be racist if they oppose Obama!

It couldn't be because he is running against a white southerner and the wife of a guy who won the South. Anyone who is not voting for Obama is racist.

[katsy]

26. This analysis from the guy who wrote "Building Red America"?

I'm sure Obama may not inspire racists. But I have to question the validity of this analysis.

I'd rather assume that HRC voters will vote for Obama if he is the nominee and vice-versa. Same with Edwards voters. Likewise, I don't think HRC or Edwards will lose the black vote if either is the nominee.

Call me naive but I just can't jump to this author's conclusions.

And for the record... I like all of our people.

[ShaneGR]

33. That's a good analysis... he thinks the Republican Party is dying atm.....

I believe the same, George W Bush absolutely ruined the Republican Party.

[katsy]

36. I'm not sure I see eye to eye with him about liberal values

ruining the Democratic Party though.

[awaysidetraveler]

31. To a man, the southern racists I've had the misfortune of knowing are members of the GOP.

The southern racists are entirely members of the GOP.
A few, I am ashamed to admit, are members of my family.
To a man, the racists I have met are old, obese men who drink too much.
Most of them vote, and most of them do so with their racist drinking buddies.

None of these men would ever--ever--ever vote for a democrat.
While everything that can be done to correct them should be done,
there is no sense in pandering to their politics.
They are a miniature dying minority of southern whites,
who also require a better example.

[zulchzulu]

32. Except that the black vote in the South will be very substantial

The same racist knuckleheads who won't for a black guy will not vote for a Yankee, a Mormon Yankee, a woman nor a Vietnam vet Yankee who apparently gave away secrets when he was a POW.

They won't vote.

[LoZoccolo]

34. Are you suggesting that we should not support Obama in order to appease racists? n/t

[Yuugal]

35. Edwards faces alot of black "resistance" also

How can he only be polling 5% of blacks? I would have thought his message would play well in SC.

[billbuckhead]

37. Zell Miller is the Democrat who can win in the south

Now there's a white southern "Democrat" who faces no white voter resistance.

[Yuugal]

42. Isn't he dead yet?

I wonder if he was voted "most likely to rattle chains and haunt the souls of the living" in high school.

[TheFarseer]

39. Any Democrat faces resistence in the South

do you honestly think anyone racist enough to not consider Obama is going to vote for Hillary Clinton?! You're completely out of your mind if you do. What's more, Hillary faces resistance from anyone sick of thier brand of devisive politics, which is a great many people.

[BlueIris]

45. But, but...I thought Obama's "toughest sell" would be to "other blacks!"

Racist White voters in the South?? Who knew?

:sarcasm:

[Jamastiene]

46. He might have stood a chance with me but he had to go and

praise/hail Raygun. Fat chance now. And it ain't because he's black. It's because he's a Republican in disguise.

[FrenchieCat]

48. No, it isn't.......about praising Reagan, which he didn't .....

it's about your conveniently twisted comprehension of what he said.

Now, Hillary, on the other hand "admired" Reagan's communication skills....but I guess that's no praise in your world of comprehension, hey? :shrug:


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Definition:

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I admire your determination.


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[Jamastiene]

50. rofl

I'm voting for Kucinich, not Hillary. Joke's on you for making assumptions without facts.

[LittleBlue]

49. I'm a little down about this. I thought our party was different. More like our racists vs. theirs

That's what it feels like. Whites in the South and Latinos in Nevada voting grossly out of proportion from the average. I knew it was bad when a Latino Obama supporter came on here and flat out told us they wouldn't vote for a black. And then people saying blacks will vote for Obama because he's black too. I guess I was hoping against hope. :(

This whole race thing might have done irreversible damage.