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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:30 PM
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*****OFFICIAL DU PA PREDICTION THREAD***Record your Guess!
Mine:
Clinton will win by 6 points, netting her a gain of 10 delegates (against
a current Obama lead of 141)


Methodology: Factored in historic median error rates for each recent
pollster in each direction. Came up with a range of Obama winning
by .9375% to Clinton winning by 11.06%. Took the average of that
and came up with a 6 pt Clinton win. In other words, just like
everyone else, I pulled it out of my ass.

DU WINNERS WILL BE ANNOUNCED TOMORROW !

DELEGATES

Clinton Margin: 4
Clinton Delegate Gain: 6

Clinton Margin: 6
Clinton Delegate Gain: 10

Clinton Margin: 8
Clinton Delegate Gain: 12

Clinton Margin: 10
Clinton Delegate Gain: 16

Clinton Margin: 12
Clinton Delegate Gain: 18

Clinton Margin: 14
Clinton Delegate Gain: 22

Clinton Margin: 16
Clinton Delegate Gain: 26

Current Obama Delegate Lead: 141
LIKELY OUTCOME: 141 - 10 = 131



LINKS:
Using Delegate Calculator:
http://www.slate.com/id/2185278 /


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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:31 PM
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1. Clinton Margin 8
book it.
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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:33 PM
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2. Obama
Margin 2
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:34 PM
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3. Obama blows her doors off. End of HRC's campaign. Bankable. Come on, Philly & Pittsburgh!
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:40 PM
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12. second
i think that there are a lot of new voters there who, like in other states, have not been polled. i predict a double digit victory for obama.
come on philly, yes we can.
and btw, did we ever find out if clinton is shelling out the street money in philly?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:35 PM
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4. Whatever Clinton wins by, DU will declare it wasn't enough.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:36 PM
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5. As will Kos, TPM, Huffington, Buzzflash, Schultz, Miller,
and the rest of the nuts.
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guyanakoolaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:39 PM
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10. As will reality, but Hillary's never been fond of it anyways.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:40 PM
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14. Whatever Clinton wins by, her supporters will claim overall victory.
In all the primaries for all time....
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:45 PM
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48. Perhaps you'd venture to say now what margin IS enough ...
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:36 PM
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6. HRC by 5
eom
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:36 PM
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7. Obama Margin 2
Clinton will then throw "a hissy fit" and demand a recount - but it will be an WIN for Obama. ;)
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:38 PM
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8. O-52 C-48
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:38 PM
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9. Obama by 15 in PA. Wait till Oregon when he
blows her out by 30...
Shit stinks and people tend to run from things that stink.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:59 PM
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21. I want what you're smoking
seriously, I hope you're right, but I just don't see it in PA.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:57 PM
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44. smoking momentum I think
Most folks know that the Primary is hurting our November opportunity.

Most folks know it's mathematically impossible for Clinton to win.

This is the primary factor in "momentum" historically.

The MSM is downplaying this... covertly campaigning for Clinton.

But you can bet the Super Delegates are fully cognizant of the facts.

With even a marginal victory by Obama in PA... possible if not likely... they will flood to Obama.

With a marginal victory for Clinton expect the same thing.

Obama will have enough SD's for the nomination by the end of the Primary Season.

The SD's will seal the deal... Florida n Michigan will be irrelevant...

Still, the smart money is on the Military Industrial Complex and Corporate Transnationals that own stock in our media... historically, figures like Obama, Dean and Jerry Brown end up getting the shaft.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:05 PM
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61. There's got to be a turning point, don't you think? I think most of
the media (more liberal media) wants Obama to win. On one hand their
ratings have soared with the fight still going. But surely they will
rein it in - just for their own personal preference.
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:35 PM
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45. Well...I do live in Oregon so....
but its way too early to be puffin'. The momentum, its there and he has it.
GOBAMA!
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southern_belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:39 PM
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11. Obama 1-3 points n/t
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:40 PM
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13. A Hillary win, by 9 points.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:43 PM
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15. based on gut instinct alone: Clinton by less than 3%
which she will use as a "mandate" to stay in the race.

OR, Obama surprises everyone and wins by 6%, which Clinton will use as a "mandate" to stay in the race.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:55 PM
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16. lol - you are probably so right. no matter what happens - nothing
will happen and the race will continue on - as McPain floats along like this, and no one
will do anything to stop it.

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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:56 PM
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17. Obama 60+ Pledged Delegates out of PA
That's my prediction.

He's on his way to 50%+1 and while Hillary will get the press and more delegates than Obama w/ PA, Obama will continue his victory march toward 50%+1.

That's what it's about and Obama will get it before June.

Mark my words.

The MSM will be rolling in Obama's loss as if there's only one primary in the whole process. They'll gush over Hillary's win and continue to play things as if the race is neck and neck and a statistical tie.

That's the way they want it ... it's about ratings.

Deal is ... it's over. Been over.

To make it official Obama will hit the 50%+1 mark before June. Then the SDs will roll over and pledge for Obama; they will not go against the will of the people.

As for PA ... Obama will get more than 60 delegates, but less than 70.

So, put me down for 65 for Obama. Then on to Indiana and North Carolina and out of Appalachia!
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:02 PM
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23. Can you convert "65" to a percentage spread in PA? See chart in OP.
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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:32 AM
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65. Here ya go
Hillary 59, Obama 41
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:57 PM
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18. Clinton - 9
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:58 PM
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19. H56 - O44
Clinton by 12. It will be enough for her campaign to soldier on to NC where it will end.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:59 PM
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20. Gosh I have no idea! A tie? nt
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:01 PM
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22. Hillary wins big. 100% of the vote.
She will then have more than 4000 delegates and will be crowned the Democratic nominee.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:03 PM
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25. Isn't that what Saddam won by in his last election?
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:14 PM
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36. Saddam HUSSEIN?
Yes, that is correct.

And your point, sir?
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:22 PM
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50. Sir? No point whatsoever - it was just a random thought that
flashed in my mind. I remember when he held elections and won with 100%

Go-bama !!!
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ColesCountyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:02 PM
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24. Clinton will net 8 delegates from PA. n/t
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:04 PM
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27. so, like a 5 point spread.
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:03 PM
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26. okay it's more a 'hope' than a prediction but .5 Obama.
never know?
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:06 PM
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31. thanks fellow Texan. I hope you are right - I'd love to sit there
all night with a too close to call deal !! there is NOTHING
worse than watching and hearing that music and seeing her
face flashed up there as a projected winner.
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:09 PM
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33. well after watching the Superbowl this past season
anything can happen!!!!

:hi:
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:04 PM
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28. "Too Close to Call" all night; Obama squeaks out a win when all said and done.
Philly and Pittsburgh, newly registered voters deliver him the win. :bounce:
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:04 PM
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29. Obama by 3
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:05 PM
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30. Hillary by 15. "Bittergate" will prove to be Obama's "Dean Scream".
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 01:06 PM by oasis
;-)
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:08 PM
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32. Clinton by 8-10%.
I'd like to be wrong on this, but that's what I'm guessing.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:10 PM
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34. Hillary by 16 points, the game has changed.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:15 PM
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37. game's changed to what? Loser wins?
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:40 PM
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41. ROFLMAO !
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:11 PM
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35. Clinton by 2
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:28 PM
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38. I'm going to go with Clinton. Margin: 12. Gain: 18
I'm not really that solid in my feelings on it though. I feel it's going to be Hillary by between 7-12%. We'll know for sure tomorrow.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:30 PM
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39. c: 52 (or 53) O: 47
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:31 PM
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40. Obama by 2 points.
Just a wild guess, but what the hell. }(

What fabulous gifts do I win?
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:46 PM
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42. Clinton by double digits - 16 is my prediction.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:51 PM
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43. Clinton by 8%................n/t
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:38 PM
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46. Clinton by 9. nt
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:44 PM
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47. Hillary by UNDER 6 %, w/LESS than 10 delegate gain on Obama ---
which in turn doesn't stop Obama from the nomination (Obama will win big in NC) but continues this bleeding (maybe HRC thinking about 2012)
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:48 PM
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49. Clinton by 8 then.....
...she spins it as a massive victory and the media buys it. The campaign goes on into the summer and the both continue to wail on each other. McCain bides his time, builds up cash and momentum, and wins in November.

2009- The supreme court is packed with two more 40 year old conservative judges. The bombing of Iran. Financial collapse of the United States.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:41 PM
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51. As much as I want an Obama blowout..I say HRC by 6
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 06:41 PM by rainbow4321
I know that anything less than HRC by 10 is a final nail in her coffin...

So I say HRC by 6.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:45 PM
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52. Clinton by 3. (nt)
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:47 PM
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53. Hillary by 2%
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:48 PM
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54. Clinton by 8%
She declares huge victory, regain of momentum...more time to bash the shit out of Obama...again...

spiffy...
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:51 PM
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55. I can only predict that I'll be surprised.
But I don't think Obama can win it.
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Tribetime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:52 PM
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56. the winner will have 1,326,673
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:02 PM
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60. You are very cute ! I can see why you have a Colbert icon. !
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:54 PM
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57. I predict an uncharted meteor will fall from the sky & put off the primary for 3 more weeks of fun!!
For reals!
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:44 PM
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62. or maybe Paris Hilton will do something.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:08 AM
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64. "Maybe"?
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:01 PM
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58. Obama by 2
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:01 PM
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59. Obama 52% v Clinton 48%
obama will take it slightly giving him a HUGE victory, ending the primary season...Philly urabn/suburbs, new registers, youth and crossovers will give obama the edge...fingers crossed
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:46 PM
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63. I say 50-50 tie.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:44 AM
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66. Obama will win by 1 point, netting him two delegates.
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TexanDem Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:09 AM
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67. my wild guess -- Clinton 53-48
But I hope it's Obama 55-45 :shrug:
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TexanDem Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:55 PM
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69. lol on arithmetic :((( Clinton 52-48
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:12 AM
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68. Dead Heat - Hilliary wins it by 2 points.
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 11:12 AM by Jamastiene
I believe it will be very close.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:31 PM
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70. Clinton by 12 points
I'll be very surprised if she gets less, not as surprised if she gets a little more, up to 15.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:40 PM
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71. I'm inclined to agree with your prediction... 6%, possibly only 5%
So, 84-74 Clinton vs Obama,
or 83-75 Clinton vs Obama.
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:47 PM
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72. I'm gonna say...Clinton: 57 Obama: 43
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 03:50 PM by malik flavors
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:51 PM
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73. Hillary by 6%.
But, more importantly, not enough to proclaim herself, or the media to adopt "The Comeback Kid". Wednesday through Friday, a flood of Superdelegates, a great majority of them to Obama.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:53 PM
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74. I predict at least 5 more Official Prediction Threads
before 8pm tonight.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:53 PM
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75. Clinton: 52.5% / Obama: 47.5% - Clinton by 5%.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:54 PM
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76. Obama by 7 points...
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:56 PM
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77. 54-46; Clinton nets 10-12 delegates. n/t
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:56 PM
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78. I'll play... Clinton wins 55-45%, 10 point margin
and the still unsettled primary race moves on to NC and IN and beyond. Without an Obama upset here, the race will continue until June 3. By then everybody has voted or caucused and the SD's will do what they do.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:33 PM
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90. Ahem... I would like to point out that I am the winner
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 10:35 PM by featherman
Unfortunately... I was hoping for single digits

Addendum: I see two others who predicted 10 points but things may change a bit and the "9 point" posters might get the prize

What is the prize by the way?
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 04:01 PM
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79. Clinton by 8
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 04:08 PM
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80. Hillary wins by 10 points.
Scaring white voters about the "black man who is friend with terrorists" will work for her although she should be ashamed of her "victory".
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 04:09 PM
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81. margin 12.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 04:10 PM
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82. Hillary by 10, just like Ohio! n/t
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 04:11 PM
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83. Hillary wins by 4%
Giving her 4 delegates.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 04:14 PM
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84. Hillary by 6% n/t
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 04:16 PM
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85. Clinton margin 3
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 04:17 PM
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86. Real count: Clinton 52, Obama 48. After Dieboldification: Clinton 62, Obama 38.
We all know there's a hell of a lot of shady shit going on in Pennsylvania.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 04:25 PM
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87. A wild guess- Hillary by a hair. n/t
n/t
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Bodhi BloodWave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 04:47 PM
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88. I'm gonna say it will be 54-46 in Hillary's favor(hoping for him winning by 1%) n/t
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JFN1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 05:15 PM
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89. Obama will win PA by less than 5%
My guess...
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