Please explain why the Log Cabin Republicans still support a party that hates them?

[The Craw]

I watched an interview of the head of the Log Cabin Republicans on C-Span-(The Log Cabin Republicans being a group of openly gay Republicans).

WHY are these people Republicans, when the rabid hatred of gay people, and the desire to oppress all gays, is a cornerstone of the Republican platform?

[bigscott]

1. tax breaks > dignity

although I would like the Democratic nominee to be a little more supportive of my right to get married

[BrklynLiberal]

2. I hesitate to say this..but could it be "self-hate"? Why else would they want to be part

of a group that detests them and says their lifestyle is a sin?

[LynneSin]

3. Why do Blacks, Hispanics, Women and other minorities support a party that hates them

It's all about JEBUS and MONEY - ironically two things that did not go hand-n-hand in the bible

[skooooo]

4. They care more about their money than being "on the wrong side of history."

[NatBurner]

5. stockholm syndrome?

nah, i think it's a money thing.

[mikelgb]

6. I certianly can't figure it out....

"We're not one-issue voters" they say but for fucks sake...

[olkaz]

7. Because they're idiots?

They crack me up, honestly.

[Liberalboy]

8. because money can buy you rights

For my rich gay brothers and sisters it seems easier to vote republican and be able to jet off somewhere if things get bad. For me it's more about classism then anything else. I vote democratic because I was the gay homeless street kid with no money...something these people will never understand or care about

[The Craw]

19. Great point! But the Republicans will never accept gay people

Even if rich gays benefit from Republican economic policies, they will always be treated as pariahs by the Republican party as a whole.

Republicans oppose all efforts to promote civil rights for gay people- Many Republicans, if they had their way, would like to see all gays round up and shot. So why do these Log Cabin gays belong to the Republican party-a party that hates them? It's as irrational as a Jew belonging to the Nazi party.

As long as the batshit crazy Christian nuts pull the strings in the Republican party, gays will bee seen as hellspawn. Lets face it, the Republican party is little more than a hate group- Usually in Republican campaigns, the talk is about the groups of people they hate- be it gays, muslims, immigrants or socialists.
I can only assume the log Cabin gays don't mind being treated like 3rd class citizens.

[dysfunctional press]

9. because they hate themselves just as much as the repugs do...?

:shrug:

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

10. Palin's position

She was asked about her position on spousal benefits for gay state employees in questions posed by the Eagle Forum during her 2006 run for Governor:


10. Do you support the Alaska Supreme Court’s ruling that spousal benefits for state employees should be given to same-sex couples? Why or why not?

SP: No, I believe spousal benefits are reserved for married citizens as defined in our constitution.


She's also against hate crimes legislation. She's clearly on the fringe of American society. I guess the Log Cabin bunch don't really want to have any rights. Puzzling.

[JackBeck]

12. She also belongs to a church that belives in ex-gay therapy.

"We like to call this the Bible Belt of Alaska,” says Cheryl Metiva, head of the local chamber of commerce. Churches proliferate in Wasilla today, and among the largest and most influential is the Wasilla Bible Church, where the Palins worship.

At the 11:15 am Sunday service, hundreds sit in folding chairs, sing along with alt-rock praise songs, and listen to a 20-minute sermon about the book of Malachi. The only sign of culture warring in the whole production is an insert in the day’s program advertising an upcoming Focus on the Family conference on homosexuality in Anchorage called Love Won Out. The group promises to teach attendees how to “respond to misinformation in our culture” and help them “overcome” homosexuality.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1837918,00.html

[HooptieWagon]

11. Very good question.

Maybe they think they'll eventually be accepted if they "go along" - some minorities do join country clubs knowing much of the membership is racist. Or maybe they value their pocketbook more than their identity. Who knows? I'd say just let then be, and if someday they see the light then welcome them with open arms.

[Neecy]

13. They explain it this way....

They claim that they're Republicans so GLBT issues will be better represented within the Republican party. They think they have a 'voice' there (LOL) and the only way we'll move up in the food chain is to have GLBT members in ALL political parties to bring about change.

That's what they say. What it's really about are their tax cuts.

[kansasblue]

14. I will briefly attempt to support the Log Cabin Republicans... and then run for cover...

anyway...

I agree if they had any dignity they won't support this team. But there are Republicans candidates at all levels with more moderate views.

And my belief is that we should NOT abandon any major institution. For example the military or religious groups. I think it's better to have LGTB in the military and to fight to change the culture. And given that the Republican are about 1/2 the voting block then it's good to have someone on board, inside. Someone to speak out at county and state conventions. In the end it is more than just voting. It's being in the party to drive the party to change.

It's not like the Democratic Party was always kind to gays. You have to work with them. To push change. I have to part ways with the Log Cabin Republicans if they endorse or vote for the Republican presidential ticket. But if they are there at the state and county conventions being a brave voice to push for a new direction then I think that is admirable.

[bunkerbuster1]

18. I'll back you on that.

I tend to give the Log Cabin folks a "bless yer hearts" kinda pass. Yeah, they're naive to think that they can reform a hideously corrupt operation like the GOP from within, but part of me gives them a little credit for at least trying.

It's like the mayor of Minneapolis said on the Rachel Maddow show the other night about Republicans and their ideology: "About 49% of it makes some sense." I'd be fine with a political-opposite party that, as Obama puts it, takes me out of my comfort zone and keeps me honest.

[JimDandy]

20. No cover necessary--that's right on. (A straight supporter of wonderful GLTB friends)

[Franks Wild Years]

15. Greedy people who DESERVE every bit of discrimination they get

Discrimination based on sexual orientation is delicious when it hits these sort of scumbags.

[JackBeck]

16. Discrimination is never "delicious". n/t

[Franks Wild Years]

21. Maybe, but...

...these people are wholeheartedly endorsing the people who denigrate and kick them in the face purely for financial reasons. I find that despicable and loathesome. Therefore I cannot have any sympathy for a homosexual Republican who gets verbally abused because of his orientation because for every one of them there are hundreds of gay people who know that there is a better way, who do not deserve what they have thrown at them.

[elkston]

17. Most are conservatives in every way EXCEPT the social stuff.

They want smaller government and fewer taxes, and it is their perception that the 'pubs will give it to them.

Then there are a few ulta-conservative blacks like Larry Elder who are all hyped up on the personal responsibility message. They feel as though the "welfare state" has created a cycle of dependance that curbs black progress (a fair argument - I am black, BTW).

The problem I have with guys like Elder is that he can agree with the Republicans as much as he wants, but just one look at this years convention will tell you if he will actually be welcome in their homes.

With the Democrats you can still spread the message of personal liberty and at the same time be with a party that has an understanding of your struggle beyond a quick flash of MLK amidst a sea of white-only "American Heroes".

You can pull yourself up from your bootstraps, start your own business, and become filthy rich under the Democrats just as much as the Republicans.

[goodgd_yall]

22. They cling to their money

They're more about greed than human rights.