Truth2Tell
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:31 AM
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Poll question: How long before Congress revisits health care "reform?" |
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Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 02:34 AM by Truth2Tell
It's been 16 years since the last failed effort to reform the corrupt and broken racket that passes for an American "health care system."
Prior to the Great Hillary Fail of '93, we saw major efforts to "fix" this system come down the pike every 15-30 years. So when will we see the next one?
And will the next round be the result of the obvious failure of this particular round? Or will it simply be an effort to improve upon this current thing? Or will it be an effort to undo what's being done today?
Or are we done? Problem fixed?
My guess is that this "reform" will be widely exposed as a fraud before Obama has a chance to slink out of the White House, but it will still take more than 15 years to revisit this and start over. But we will. So my vote is for Dems back in over 15 years to start over.
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:33 AM
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1. Nope. Health care reform is finished for at least a generation. |
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Look at what happened the last time we had health care "reform". Nixon gave us HMOs, and that was way back in the early '70s.
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:34 AM
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2. If everyone is "covered" by forced payment to corporations |
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...there will NEVER be a discussion of REAL reform. :evilfrown:
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:34 AM
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3. I think they start back again after Veterans Day technically speaking |
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"before Obama has a chance to slink out of the White House"
interesting choice of words for a member of Democratic Underground
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:36 AM
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4. I thought that was a pretty telling choice of words as well. nt |
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:38 AM
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5. Obviously, Obama is a traitor to all man kind and must "slink" out the WH. |
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:sarcasm:
Laws are revisited all the time. What makes anyone think this one will be any different? The huge hurdle is getting laws on the books to begin with. Social Security was tinkered with so many times.
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:39 AM
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7. apparently passing this will be worse than the 1993 bill not passing |
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though I am too dumb to understand why.
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:42 AM
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10. LOL. I guess vabrella, and Greenbriar, and William Pitt's wife and me |
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should all just pray our preexisting conditions go away while the Dems heroically make a better bill.
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:45 AM
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14. Hey, as long as you get yours, that's what matters. nt |
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:48 AM
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16. Yes, I am so selfish! |
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Not wanting to wait for a law to cover something that should have been covered years ago is "getting mine". Pathetic reasoning.
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Sun Nov-08-09 03:00 AM
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21. Pathetic reasoning is determining the worth of bill |
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based only on how it affects you and your friends.
You're the one who dragged your own circumstances into this discussion.
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:46 AM
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15. yeah, that worked real well for my dead uninsured grandmother. nt |
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:49 AM
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17. I feel like the fiercest critics of this bill may not have had to deal with the healthcare system |
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as it exists today, or have never had a friend or love one denied coverage because of a pre-existing condition.
I could be wrong, but that is the feeling I get.
As ugly and imperfect as this bill may be, there are some good things in it that will help people.
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:55 AM
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19. I have no idea. I guess some of us are just tired of living in fear of being |
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rejected or dropped for coverage while some have never had that experience.
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Sun Nov-08-09 03:29 AM
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Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 03:33 AM by cornermouse
My child needed medicine that cost $70,000 a year. The insurance company didn't want him on the rolls so they doubled the premium. When we found a way to pay the doubled premium, they doubled it again a few months later. (hint: no caps on what they could charge...) Since then my child no longer requires the medicine and although its been years, when I tried recently to get health insurance for my child, I was still unable to get it. I was told that since my child has medicaid, my child has "insurance" and is therefore covered. Unfortunately, finding a doctor who will accept medicaid is nearly impossible around here.
What has been passed will be a financial disaster for many, many people and when the next election takes place, I predict, a disaster for the democratic party. I can't believe the party leaders were dumb enough to pass this.
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:43 AM
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After the '93 bill failed to pass it was widely understood that we had failed to achieve health care reform. Lesson learned. This time America will be blasted with the message that health care reform has been done, when in fact it hasn't. That will take a whole lot longer to overcome.
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:39 AM
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6. Is this Obama Underground? |
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:shrug: I must've missed the memo.
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:44 AM
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13. dunno, is this Character Attack On Obama Underground? |
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Or is "Snake" meant as a friendly nickname?
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:42 AM
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8. Probably after President Obama is re-elected |
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Politically this was the big leap forward. Adjustments are much easier to do.
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:42 AM
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9. Not in my lifetime. nt |
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:43 AM
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11. Were Done For 20 Years - Selling Out Has Consequences |
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:50 AM
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We can't have one, just one, damn night on DU without somebody bitching about something even when we accomplish a goal.
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:58 AM
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Do you think that "buy into the insurance scam or go to prison" has been a longtime "goal" of most DUers? Or do you have a mouse in your pocket?
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Sun Nov-08-09 03:21 AM
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22. economic collapse will force the next round of "reform" -- at some point, the extortion |
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being paid to insurance companies will start to dry up, no matter how much fear is drummed into citizens that they'd better "cough up." So to speak...
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Sun Nov-08-09 10:57 AM
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24. True, but that doesn't mean Congress will act hastily. nt |
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