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Avidor Donating Member (952 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 10:08 AM
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Right Wing, Pro-Life Cartoonist Selling a Pictures of the First Lady Naked
I remember a few years back when I got a lot of flak from a couple of liberal bloggers years ago because I posted a PhotoShopped someone else did of Michele Bachmann as a succubus on Dump Bachmannn. Some right-wing M.O.B. bloggers criticized me for a PhotoShopped picture I had on my home page of Bachmann standing next to Hitler.

Where's the outrage this time?

http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2009/03/michelle_obama.php">The City Pages Blotter has a post about the right-wing, pro-life cartoonist Dan Lacey's portrait of First Lady Michele Obama

Where's the outrage this time? Or is it okay to paint the First Lady naked and sell it on Ebay because she is black?

It's important to point out that Michele Obama is not an elected, public official.

Instead the alternative electronic media gives Dan Lacey publicity and helps him sell his paintings.

I know liberal cartoonists who are barely making a living. There are liberal cartoonists who lost work because newspapers are going out of business or cutting back (or more likely for their political activities and beliefs). Tom Tomorrow was cut from the City Pages.

I know liberal cartoonists who took time away from creating artwork to volunteer to defeat the GOP over the last 8 years.

What was Dan Lacey doing before painting the Obama family naked for a fast buck?

Dan Lacey is a member of the right-wing bloggers association M.O.B.

Lacey's Faithmous comic is full of strident, right-wing, theocratic messages... here's some examples:

http://faithmouse.blogspot.com/">Lacey has a comic called Faithmouse











You can see more of lacey's right-wing theocratic crap here:

http://www.faithmouse.com/faithmouse_favorites/index.html

Apparently Lacey is http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1994079">exploiting the Obama family to pay off his debt.

The cartoon is very heavily in debt. It's an amount which has accumulated during seven years of pouring everything I have into the cartoon, of paying for and doing whatever is necessary without hesitation to keep the cartoon alive. If you consider the impact this cartoon has had, of the many sites which regularly post and discuss this primarily Pro-Life cartoon, it's an amount of money which wouldn't seem outrageous for any start-up operation or media enterprise to expend. However, faithmouse isn't a media conglomerate; it's just one cartoonist with a computer in his bedroom , a drawing pad under his arm wherever he goes, and a quixotic belief in the merits of an ongoing artistic project.

I know that I sometimes surprise my own fanbase with my cartoons and choice of subject matter and my willingness to post on sites which are anything but conservative. Whatever my methods, I hope you can see they've been successful. Links and references to what is primarily a Pro-Life cartoon continue to grow, far beyond the Pro-Life community. Faithmouse is the only Pro-Life and Pro-Christian editorial cartoon which is given the time of day in the secular online world, mainly for its artistic and entertainment value. I've always maintained that faithmouse needs to be a fluid personal and artistic expression before attempting to being anything else, otherwise it's just another soapbox. The world is already crammed with soapboxes.

Fans of this cartoon may also be surprised to know that I've never submitted faithmouse for syndication. I've always felt that syndicates would have a built-in bias against a Christian, Catholic, Pro-Life cartoon, so I've instead focused on improving my own skills and popularizing the cartoon online. Again, I believe my efforts have been successful, but there's only so much a vast media enterprise of one can do.

I'm a believer in faithmouse; I hope that you, as a fellow believer, will consider helping to keep this cartoon alive. Free Republic regularly holds freeper drives for larger amounts of money a few times a year and is successful at raising those funds, so perhaps this will work for faithmouse as well.


Dan Lacey who is using the City Pages to sell his crap http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=160x25827">refused an award for Best Right Wing blog from the City Pages and posted it on EBay. I noticed that he is now proudly displaying the award on his blog.
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Minnesota Raindog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 12:18 PM
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1. Sounds like Lacey fits right in with "The MOB"
This should come as no surprise. After all, this little boys' club called "The M.O.B." includes such fine members as serial drunk drivers, city inspections department scofflaws, sexual perverts, slanderers, hypocrites and other undesirables and social outcasts.
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Avidor Donating Member (952 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 12:58 PM
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4. The Right-Wing MOB Loves Lacey
The leader of the right-wing MOB MItch Berg:

http://www.shotinthedark.info/wp/?p=280

The “Howard Dean” Trophy For Leaving Liberals Screaming and Sputtering: Every year for the last, oh, two years or so, the City Pages - the occasionally brilliant but always reliably hip-”counterculture”-lefty local “alternative” freebie ‘zine - gives two “Best Blog” awards. The “Best Liberal Blog” is generally stridently, constantly political (”MNVolved”, I think, in ‘06, although it didn’t survive much beyond the award, and “Clucking Stool” in ‘07); the “Best Conservative Blog” has been the one that talks the least about politics. In ‘06 it was Nihilist in Golf Pants, and the award seems to have gutted the spirit of the once-prolific stalwarts. But in ‘07, the “award” went to Dan Lacey of “Faithmouse”. Perhaps trying to avoid the City Pages “Best New Band” jinx (the “winners” inevitably break up) Lacey turned around and sold the “award” on EBay. It drew sputtering from the usual assortment of left-leaning waxy yellow blogbuildup, but who cared? The quietest blog smackdown of the year, it was also by far the best.


S'funny how quiet they are about his new antics.... like Lacey's lesbian pancake porn.


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faithmouse Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 12:28 PM
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2. What an absolute bastard this Dan Lacey guy is
I don't know about you, but I'm complaining to every major media outlet I can think of. Really, we can't allow this fuck to get away with this.
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Avidor Donating Member (952 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 12:40 PM
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3. Lacey does gay porn while doing comics opposing gay marriage
Warning - Not for the office or children:

http://realqueerporn.com/porn-and-pancakes

Lacey's anti-gay marriage comic:



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Avidor Donating Member (952 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 01:41 PM
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5. Dan Lacey, is that you?... if it is....
Does the Family Research Council approve of your nude paintings and your gay pancake porn?

You say on your blog that you've tabled at an FRC event:

http://faithmouse.blogspot.com/2006/01/blogs4life-march-for-life-and-new.html

The Family Research Council building is only a few blocks away from the MCI center, and has a marvelous frieze above the doorway proclaiming Faith and Family. Inside, the good people of the FRC were kind enough to allow the use of a table to display cartoons and sign autographs.....


Apparently not the first time Lacey did some smut:

http://www.encyclopediaofstupid.com/stupid/index.php/Faithmouse

Faithmouse Pornography

In February of 2007, Dan Lacey registered an account on the Something Awful forums and posted sexually explicit pictures of Faithmouse characters in FYAD, and again in GBS. Though his foray into furry porn was not well received by FYAD, who surprisingly enough seemed only to wish that he would never post there, GBS embraced Lacey's latest offerings as a sign of his spiral into insanity and began to request commissions. Richard Kyanka requested that Lacey collaborate with Shmorky in a flash animation project, but there has been no word on further developments. In 2008 Lacey, seemingly a little more stable, returned to the SA forums, posting random artwork in Laissez's Fair.


Nothing wrong with smut, Lacey. ... it's the hypocrisy.

Lacey, let us know what the FRC, the MOB and the Catholic Church says about your smutty paintings and comics.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 02:21 PM
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7. I agree. Nobody did nude sketches of Reagan or Nixon or anyone else...
Or maybe people should, now that the dribbling pukes have gone right ahead, I don't know.
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Avidor Donating Member (952 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 03:31 PM
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9. Here's some more Dan Lacey smut (warning - expicit)
Hey Dan, does the Family Research Council, MOB, Catholic Church and all your right-wing, theocratic pals approve of your smutty paintings?

http://fleshbot.com/5150403/its-a-super+funpacked-double-edition-of-faithmouse-this-week
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 02:20 PM
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6. I'm not a sketch artist; can somebody draw Limbaugh's family nekked or Coleman or * or someone??
Seems only fair now that the bar has been lowered (again).
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Avidor Donating Member (952 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 02:59 PM
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8. Lacey has broken the links to his right-wing, theocratic comics.
Edited on Sat Mar-07-09 03:01 PM by Avidor
But there are still many more on the web if you use Google image search.

Here's one of his comics promoting the Family Research Council:



Here's a blog post about gay-pancake-porn artist Lacey at an FRC event:

http://www.blogs4life.com/archives/2007/01/faithmouse_cart.php



Last year we were humored by the art work of Dan Lacey, the creator of Neverborn and insightful pro-life cartoons. In fact, Dan created original artwork (click here) for bloggers who helped sponsor his trip. He's pictured to the left holding one that was drawn for ProlifeBlogs.


Lacey has apparently broken the link in that blog post as well.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 05:45 PM
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Avidor Donating Member (952 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 07:00 PM
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12. You Want to Dance.... Really?.....
Please describe your "Fall From Grace"...... answer these questions , Lacey:

Are you still opposed to a woman's right to choose?

Are you still a theocrat?

Are you still a right-wing Republican?

Are you still opposed to same sex marriage?

Do you still admire George Bush, Rush Limbaugh, Alan Keyes?

Do you still support the M.O.B.'s right-wing crap?

Do you still hate the ACLU that protects your right to create and sell your explicit sexual artwork (porn)?

Do you think you should make money exploiting the political movements you stridently opposed?

That's the tune, so...

Dance, you right-wing theocratic monkey... DANCE!!!



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faithmouse Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 12:55 AM
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16. Who the hell cares
Edited on Sun Mar-08-09 12:56 AM by faithmouse
and I've already answered or admitted I don't know the answers anymore to some of those questions at SA, POE or in my blog. I'm not a right-winger anymore, and haven't been for years. Look it up.

The short answer is that I'm disillusioned and pretty much non-partisan. All I do now is art, and if I have any sort of political commentary at all I aim it at my former conservatives, because I came to conclusion that they're pretty much asshats like you. I have had any contact with anyone in the MOB for years; I still link to them because it's a Minnesota themed blogroll and there are more non-political blogs listed there than not.

But you know, not only do you only post old cartoons and commentary, but you don't bother to post any of the cartoons I drew after this post in 2006, when I offered to make the cartoon equally representative of a liberal perspective-

http://faithmouse.blogspot.com/2006/04/sincere-proposal.html

By the way, I painted a nude self-portrait of myself today with a pancake on my head, you can view via my sellers page-

http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/freeperdan_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_mdoZ

It came out pretty nice. I've been forcing myself to paint with a larger, hog hair brush, which creates a lot of interesting color detail patterns.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 11:24 PM
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14. ...
Edited on Sat Mar-07-09 11:25 PM by Pierre.Suave
:rofl:

Dood, you got PWNED.

:rofl:

I love it when you right wingers come in here to try to defend your indefensible positions...

:rofl:
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Avidor Donating Member (952 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 11:58 PM
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15. Lacey even went over to Daily Kos to whine about being persecuted...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/3/7/191515/8547/964/705853

What an ass you are, Avidor, bullshitting KOS.

My fans know that I became disillusioned and abandoned Faithmouse as a pro-conservative, evangelical cartoon a few years ago. Now I paint porny paintings, portrait of mostly my former fellow conservates with pancakes on their heads (the 'Sarah Palin pancake portrait') or paintings of Barack Obama on a unicorn. This is all in my blog or on my fan forums at Portal of Evil and Something Awful


Lacey wants to be able to make and sell sexually explicit paintings while he pals around with Mitch Berg and the MOB and attacks the ACLU...

Lacey, are you going to give any of your porn profits to the ACLU?


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faithmouse Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 01:19 AM
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17. Actually, I've appreciated the opportunity
I imagine there are a few people on DU and KOS who think I still draw the cartoon, so you gave me the opportunity to post what's been happening for the past couple of years. And I'm certain this has brought a few more visitors to my auctions, which I appreciate.



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faithmouse Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 11:58 AM
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18. AND, FURTHERMORE
I'm pretty much disrespectful of all polititicians now, right and left. I'm not a monkey for any one side, like you continue to be.

I'm also not ashamed of anything I've drawn in the past. It's all out there for anyone to find. If I pulled all my older comics, then people would accuse me of hiding them. Beside; Faithmouse was probably the best thing I've ever done.

I used to draw a regular cartoon for STOP THE ACLU, but now I don't think they like me-

http://www.stoptheaclu.com/...

When Obama pretty strenously expressed the fact that he also was a Christian, I think that moved the Democratic party to the center and, unlike a lot of fellow conservatives, I took him at his word, instead of seeing him as the anti-Christ.

As for porn and the ACLU, my argument was always against the ACLU when it tried to restrict free speech, not when it allowed it. The only cartoons I ever drew about pornography were against child porn, and that was it. I never led any religious movement for WHOLESOMENESS. You imagine my cartoon matched Right-Wing ideology completely, but it never did. I guess you missed my cartoon of Faithmouse beating George Bush over the head with a bible, or of Andrea Merkel going at George with a strapon, or of Taint being John Hagee's whore. In my humble opinion, this misunderstanding on your part is a result of your being a militant, one-note dumbshit.

I think the problem here is that CityPages, after I turned down the Right-Wing blogging award a few years ago, contacted you at our local Minneapolis Cartoonist Conspiracy group and asked you to draw some cartoons for them similar to the 'Faithmole' cartoon satirization you drew of my Faithmouse cartoon (which I thought was pretty cool.) What I read here in your posts, knocking my stuff, complaining about my making some money and attention (not much) while 'liberal cartoonists lose their jobs' is more about you than me.

It's real dickshittery when one artist attacks the other on political grounds. Matt Mors is a fan of my work-

http://www.mattbors.com/...

As is Brown University cartoonist Roxanne Brighton-

http://fishno12.blogspot.com/...

both are very liberal, and neither are shit flinging monkeys. It's a choice, you know.

I'm sorry to say, if you're on a search for screwed up things about artists you'll never have any problem finding them. I haven't spend one moment of my time digging through anything you've drawn in order to attack it on political grounds, searching for hypocracy, etc. If you're an artist and you don't have internal conflicts and psychological juxatapositions which are irreconcilable you probably don't have anything interesting to offer the public anyway, except for dogma.
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Avidor Donating Member (952 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 12:14 PM
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19. You only care about the $$$ and attention which makes you the...
Edited on Sun Mar-08-09 12:16 PM by Avidor
... perfect Right-Wing Republican.

Incidentally, there are rules here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules.html

Who We Are: Democratic Underground is an online community for Democrats and other progressives. Members are expected to be generally supportive of progressive ideals, and to support Democratic candidates for political office.


You are a right-wing, theocratic, Republican bigot... go peddle your porn at the Free Republic or Pro-life blogs.
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faithmouse Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 03:26 PM
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20. Avidor, I didn't post this thread, you did
And I didn't post this thread either-

http://www.democraticunderground.org/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8250819

but I'm happy to continue to contribute to it.

All I can say is, thanks.
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Avidor Donating Member (952 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 05:14 PM
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10. Gawker: "Pancake Painter Sex Cartoon Uproar!"
http://gawker.com/5146347/pancake-painter-sex-cartoon-uproar
Did you know that acclaimed pancake-head artist Dan Lacey is also an erotic cartoonist? It's true! But now his eBay-ing rights are under attack from a dreaded conservative blogger.

One dude in Texas is extremely upset that Dan, the sexiest pancake renderer of our generation, is selling this artful version of that nude Madonna picture on eBay:

Well, the more I thought about this just-plain-creepy stuff, the more upset I got about it. This is not really art; it’s just ego-indulgence on the part of the artist. Why in the world anyone would want to buy this is beyond me.

Really.

So i complained to Ebay. The full-frontal stuff is a direct violation of Ebay’s TOS. The “Ugly Betty” stuff is just plain creepy. And the rest is just . . . weirdly inappropriate for a family-oriented site.


Someone should get Lacey's pals at the Family Research Council's opinion on Lacey's "erotic" art:

http://fleshbot.com/5146027/fight-for-the-rights-of-erotic-art-on-ebay

http://fleshbot.com/5144244/dan-lacey-the-painter-of-pancakes-comes-to-fleshbot
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 08:23 PM
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13. I'm sorry, I'm still trying to get over the drawing of a cuddly fetus dubbed "Neverborn."
Wha...tha...fah...
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 03:14 AM
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21. I hope everyone here will hit the alert button on Faithmouse (AKA Dan Lacey) as he is a LIAR
.
.

He's over at the General Discussion-Presidential section claiming that he "used to be a Freeper" and is showing us links to sites that are completely irrelevent to anything.

http://www.freerepublic.com/~danlacey/

By the way, he posts there under both the names Dan Lacey and under StoptheACLU and he is DISGUSTING!
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Avidor Donating Member (952 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 09:56 AM
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22. Lacey's Cartoon of President Obama as a dildo and butt plug
Lacey dropped in the comments over at the Dump Bachmann blog:

http://dumpbachmann.blogspot.com/2009/03/bachmann-apologist-mitch-berg-pwn3d.html

Ask him a question... like how can Lacey sell pictures of Obama to unsuspecting liberals when he also portrays the President as a sex toy in his porn?



...and is Lacey attempting to say President Obama is anti-choice in this comic?


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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 11:14 AM
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23. I wouldn't take his political views seriously
What it all boils down to is that he apparently is a shameless self-promoter, trying to stand out among the crowded art pack.
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Avidor Donating Member (952 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:11 PM
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24. Don't you think people who buy his Obama Portraits on Ebay...
... should know Lacey is an extreme right-winger who also puts Obama's face on dildoes?

I think it might make a difference to people contemplating the purchase of his Obama portraits.

I would prefer to see any money made from selling the President's image go to artists and organizations who support the President.

Not "Freeper Dan".
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 06:53 PM
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25. Thanks for getting this
out there, Avidor. I wanted to thank you on the thread in GDP but it was already locked.

A strange thing, though..I went to the link of the poster "faithmouse" who was tombstoned and it said "you are ignoring this author" when I didn't even know it existed until your thread and it was not on my Ignore list.

Oh well, I cleaned out a few tombstoned ignores while I was there.
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Avidor Donating Member (952 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 10:12 PM
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26. Thanks...Good Riddance to Faith-Based Rodents
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Avidor Donating Member (952 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 07:27 PM
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27. City Pages Article About Dan Lacey..
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