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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 08:51 PM
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How Will New Yorkers Vote?
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How Will New Yorkers Vote?
Machines on display in DeWitt; lobbyists' influence alleged
Wednesday, May 04, 2005
By Marnie Eisenstadt
Staff writer

The voting machines with the plaid curtains and red levers will be looking for new jobs come 2006 there's no question about that. The question is what will replace them, and the company with the answer stands to make millions.

But Bo Lipari, head of New Yorkers for Verified Voting, says money and corporate influence, not the needs of the voters, could direct the ultimate decision about how New Yorkers cast their ballots.

"Software engineers say you never buy version 1.0. Well, New York is considering spending $220 million on version 1.0," Lipari said, referring to touch-screen voting machines.

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CanOfWhoopAss Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 09:01 PM
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1. NY = Red State
If there is no verifiable paper BALLOT. Watch the media start turning NY into a 50-50 state so the polls make it appear so just before it goes RED in a close election. No close elections ever go BLUE.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 09:06 PM
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2. The Board of Elections in NY is notoriously corrupt.
Count on the bad guys to cheat big time when they bring in touch screen voting.
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Deb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 09:36 PM
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3. I have yet to see the reaction of election workers
mentioned in any article, maybe I've missed it.

The sweet elderly ladies that run our lever machines have already made it known that they will stop working elections if touch screen computers are chosen.

How are we to replace those workers that refuse to use computers?




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feelthebreeze Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:44 AM
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4. I am hoping that all these comments are...
not reflecting a sense of defeat. We are gaining in numbers and are getting our message out. It is starting to change. Now is not the time for cynicism and apathy. Now we must push, it is happening. But you need to get involved. You need to take action and contact all your state Sens and Assemblymen. I am urging you to not waste valuable time complaining and throwing your hands up in the air, this is not the time for that. This is the time for fighting and winning.
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:56 PM
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5. Right!
Particularly those on the 10-member HAVA Committee.

I believe they may vote 6-4 to ban DREs, but only if the people continue to speak! I doubt they are getting a lot of calls and letters from people asking for e-voting!

The bill you want to support is A6503 which has no companion in the Senate at the moment. But this can change if the HAVA Committee comes up with a joint bill which would sail through both houses! This is where to put the pressure now. Esp. on:

Sen. John J. Flanagan
Chairman of the Senate Elections Committee
2nd Senate District

Albany Office
Room 817 LOB
Albany, NY 12247
518-455-2071
518-426-6904 FAX

District Office
260 Middle Country Road, Suite 203
Smithtown, New York 11787
631-361-2154
631-361-5367 FAX

This is the guy you should call and write to to ban DREs!
Even if they have a paper trail, the paper will probably never be counted. Tell him to go with paper ballots and precinct count optical scan with public testing of the scanners and random auditing of the ballots. Anything less is tantamount to election fraud!
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:59 PM
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6. Staffing is a major problem.
Once they learn "computers", they get real jobs!
The skills of running an Optical Scanner, or hand counting paper ballots are, shall we say, a bit less marketable.
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feelthebreeze Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:04 PM
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7. I like your focus Bill Bored...
Always a pleasure to see your posts and insights.
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