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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 02:57 PM
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Okay, Joe Satrom's TV ad kicks ass
fortunately, tivo has been helping me avoid most ads, but I happened to be watching Rather live on the news yesterday, and I saw the ad.

Wow, it's great!
http://satrom.com/news/view.asp?ID=65

Not sure that it's going to work well, but as a commercial it's fantastic.
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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 03:06 PM
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1. I like it!
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Stew225 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 03:20 PM
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2. Very good! How about doing a national caliber
spot like this for Kerry?
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 10:59 PM
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3. I saw it on TV, and I couldn't understand it...
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 10:59 PM by northwest
Is Satrom trying to say he's a bad politician or something?? Am I missing something???:shrug:
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 12:40 PM
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5. Left my wife confused as well
Its just too clever by half.

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goJoe Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 12:10 AM
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9. some clarity . . .
from http://satrom.com

The first ad from the Satrom Campaign highlights events in Satrom's career where his commitment to North Dakota out-shined typical political choices. Satrom stood up to his own party for paying out of state consultants so much while paying teachers so little. In 1989 Satrom held out and made fellow legislators stay an extra day so more money would be allocated for student grants. Ironically, in 1993 Satrom was also on the board that recommended John Hoeven to be President of the Bank of North Dakota because Hoeven was the best banker for the job.


from http://gojoe.org

SATROM “BAD AT POLITICS” AD BACKGROUND

It’s bad politics to fight the administration of your own party.

In 1991, Joe Satrom opposed his own party on hiring high-priced, out-of-state consultants for economic development: The North Dakota Department of Economic Development and Finance under Governor George Sinner planned to hire the marketing and finance directors and deputies of Joseph Cascalenda, a Minneapolis consulting agency, to oversee economic development in the state. The top job paid “between $90,000 and $100,000 annually with its two chief deputies getting between $50,000 and $60,000.” (Associated Press, October 14, 1991) Satrom called the proposal “seriously out of line” because the average pay of North Dakota public school teachers and college professors ranked near the bottom in state lists. (Associated Press, October 14, 1991).
The Hoeven administration currently spends millions of dollars on out of state recruitment and incentives for companies that offer jobs of questionable value causing many people to wonder why we don’t give more help to our own businesses and why North Dakota is sold as a “low-wage” state.

It’s bad politics to make your fellow politicians work overtime.

In 1989, Joe Satrom made legislators stay an extra day to appropriate more money to the State Grant Program for needy students. (Journal of the Senate, Wednesday, April 19, 1989) Satrom was the last legislator to push for an increase. Last year, over 24,000 students applied and only about 6,000 received grants. Meanwhile, college tuition in North Dakota continues to skyrocket with double digit increases every year at the University of North Dakota and North Dakota State University.

And it’s really bad politics to give your future opponent his first job in government.

In 1993, Joe Satrom was on the committee that hired John Hoeven as president of the Bank of North Dakota. Hoeven was the best qualified banker that applied. Heidi Heitkamp, Attorney General at the time, wrote Satrom a letter thanking him for his work.

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There is quite a difference in a candidate who grew up on a family farm opposed to on who grew up in a family bank . . .

Hope this made things clearer. It seemed to work on me after about the 3rd time I saw it . . . Satrom just needs more money to compete with Hoeven's dumb ad drown 'em media campaign.

- - - Over and Out - - -
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dakota_democrat Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 03:22 PM
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4. I'll be honest...
I didn't quite get it either, but I wasn't paying a lot of attention when I was watching it.

the dakota_democrat
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goJoe Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 05:31 PM
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6. Something Different.
I have been hearing more and more positive response to the "bad at politics, good for ND" ad. When I first saw it, I didn't like it. After watching it a few more times (which is what we do with ads) I began to see the underlying message of the ad and realized it was very smart and effective. At first I didn't see the dates at first and that made it confusing to me . . . Satrom is "bad" at politics because he doesn't make decisions based on politics he makes them based on what is the best possible outcome for ND.

It takes a bit of thinking, which people watching television don't normally do, but Joe wanted to challenge people a bit the first time around. Rather than having a cookie-cutter political ad "Hi I'm so-and-so and I think such-and-such vote for me." the Satrom Camp has proven once again that thinking creatively and taking the campaign outside the box is an essential methodology for change.

There are more commercials and video on http://gojoe.org/avclub.html

- - - jon
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 12:35 AM
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7. welcome to DU!
:toast:
:hi:
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goJoe Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 11:59 PM
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8. Warm+Fuzzy
Thanks for the welcome. :grouphug:
I have been cruising around catching up w/ stuff . . .
I wanted to post a topic but haven't met my quota to be a super-awesome-wizard poster yet. So, I will just post it here . . .

This is a clip that needs to be spread around. Maybe you have already seen it . . .
It is Hoeven explaining why he and Satrom haven't been debating . . .

This maybe should be a topic . . . if only I was a super-posting-wiz . . .

:dem:
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 06:17 PM
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10. kick for two reasons
:kick: for goJoe to show his face around here some more

and

:kick: for someone to maybe post what goJoe is suggesting above. I get an error message when trying to view the clip so I don't really know what it is about. (Maybe my dang husband should look at why my computer won't play any video clips or any media player things... after all, his job in the military is with computers and stuff. :crazy:
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goJoe Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 11:01 AM
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11. video info + help
the video is a in "real" format. You can get the player @ http://www.real.com/

There is also a link from the story on gojoe.org @ http://gojoe.org/index/91704.html

The direct link to the video is here :
http://www.demnpl.com/vertical/Sites/%7B69334758-1697-4DC0-A998-EAD4B0C11D10%7D/uploads/%7B6D257865-A8A0-4CC0-A8CE-7708F9CF5319%7D.RM

If you haven't seen it, you should.
If you haven't shown it to everyone you know, you should.

- - - let me know if there are futher problems . . . maybe i can encode it as a different format or something. i know, i know, real player kinda sux.
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