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vets74 Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 10:57 AM
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(crosspost) Is "Kill a Black Man" Still #1 BUCKET LIST Item for Authoritarian Southern Males ???
-- CROSSPOST from the very fast moving Editorials & Articles thread --

Get us be clear about what happened to Troy Davis. This killing is like the Serbians and the Hutus in Rwanda in 1994, who set about murdering their Muslim and Tutsi rivals. This was a simple all-out arrogant racist murder.

Yes, Americans do the same crimes.

Our system of laws would be well served within the Eleventh Circuit -- and the Fifth and the Fourth and TN and KY in the Sixth -- by recognizing that organized community groups espouse racist hatred. A local legal system in the South has proved yet again that it cannot be trusted for honesty or impartiality.

This judicial killing served the authoritarian/racist male BUCKET LIST, not justice.

The Governor of Georgia, Sonny Perdue by his silence as ascent, and his buddies/appointees on the Board of Probations and Paroles and the cops and the prosecutors -- all upstanding citizens -- got their tickets punched.

Their BUCKET LISTs got that Most Prized achievement:

1. Kill a Black Man.


Executing a guilty Black murderer would not count. Not a dime. They had to get hands on an ordinary Black man and stop him from breathing. Getting to kill a Black woman would not have been quite the same. Slaveholder treatment of Black females went a different direction from killing them.

This murder of Troy Davis was an example of tribal fury focused to kill one man.

Murder by team work. A conspiracy of lies.

"Before I die, I'm gonna get me one...." madness and hatred. Of course they knew he was innocent. That's what made the killing so important to them. Any chance of him being guilty would have lessened the high.

Do not be surprised to see these fine men have a party to celebrate. If one might suggest, they can do it a week before the Masters golf tournament in Augusta. (The seasonal calendar for Georgia begins with The Masters and the new magnolia blossoms.)

They will not have to burn a cross this year. They have already "burned" a Black man.

Murder, itself, in this fashion is entirely singular. Murder for racist pleasure represents an authoritarian triumph, a triumph of the racist Will beyond all other. Take the joy of hunting deer or fishing for bass and multiply this joy by a thousand. The rival male is reduced to a corpse.

Those with sympathy for the White Citizens Council, the John Birch Society (a.k.a. "Tea Party"), for Rick Perry and Ron Paul, for the "Base" of the Republican Party -- those folks are free to object that these characterizations are unfair. Good luck with that.

(I was raised in part in Georgia, in Fort Valley south of Atlanta. This posting doesn't convey a tenth of the black hearted racist evil that we witnessed. Passage of these several decades doesn't seem to have changed a thing when we consider Troy Davis. Also, finally, writing "Black man" is a bow to the sensibilities of this web site -- an earlier effort was erased asap. "Black man" is not the choice of diction that best reflects what I know of these authoritarian/racist BUCKET LISTS.)
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 11:08 AM
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1. I believe that you are overstating this wildly, and that such is
representative of the thoughts of only a tiny, tiny minority in any case. I believe you're exaggerating the concept here, and attempting to make it more prevalent than it actually is.

That black men are punished more severely and more frequently by our court systems and penal system is well-known, and is in no way limited to the South. It happens everywhere in the US.

In the rare cases where a black man is murdered by a white man or a group of white men acting solely on the basis of skin color, condemnation is general in every region of this country. Indeed, Texas just executed a man for just that thing and that execution was almost universally supported, except by those, like myself, who oppose all use of the death penalty.

My bottom line is that your OP exaggerates a phenomenon that may be real, but is limited to a tiny minority of people, and is not limited to Southern states.

While you may have cleaned up the language, the error I'm talking about still persists in your post. I believe it is unfairly regional in nature and way overstated.

Note: I'm cross posting this reply from the same thread you posted in another part of DU.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 11:15 AM
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2. I lived in Georgia when Lester Maddox
was distributing axe handles to the populace.
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vets74 Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 11:19 AM
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3. Yes, indeed. Maddox was a piece of work.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 11:19 AM
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4. UNREC
still a disgusting post - like the earlier one this morning

and it's fate will be the same
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 12:28 PM
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5. Back in the 60-70s the predominance of executions of minorities and
the poor was one of the main reasons why many of us were against the death penalty. Back then there was no question that it had a lot to do with racism. I do not know about now but much of what we see from the Tbaggers would say yes.
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vets74 Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 01:28 PM
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6. White Citizens Councils + John Birch Society =REBRANDED= Tea Party.
Not quite the Klan. Racial hatred plus paranoia: yes, indeed.
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 03:04 PM
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7. As of 2010 the John Birch Society was based in Grand Chute Wisconsin. Its council members were:
Nathaniel E. Adamson, Jr. - Charlottesville, Virginia
Robert K. Bell - Executive Committee, Tulsa, Oklahoma
William H. Blewster - Mesa, Arizona
Ray Clark - Lake Arrowhead, California
Arthur D. Crino - Executive Committee, Tigard, Oregon
Clark L. Curry - Executive Committee, Edmond, Oklahoma
David Eisenberg - Tucson, Arizona
Paul Leithart - Columbus, OH
Nelson Bunker Hunt - Dallas, Texas
Daniel L. McBride - Simi Valley, California
John F. McManus - Wakefield, Massachusetts
Dominick Odorizzi - Northridge, California
Jess Roques - Jackson, Mississippi
F. Ward Rowley - New London, New Hampshire
Glen J. Schmitz - Springfield, Minnesota
Thomas D. Sellers - Bloomfield Hills, Michigan
George Wallace - Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Clifford Wasem - Executive Committee,Clarkston, Washington

As I said in another post, targeting the Southern states might have the consequence of not only alienating the many openhearted Southerners, it allows the misperception that racism is a regional issue.
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vets74 Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 03:23 PM
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8. White Citizens Councils + John Birch Society =REBRANDED= Tea Party
Edited on Thu Sep-22-11 03:25 PM by vets74
The Birch Society was founded by Fred Koch and his paranoid friends. The 2010 version is a wisp of a shadow of the paranoid anti-commie engine it was in the 1950s and 1960s.

They campaigned across the country claiming that MLK was a communist and a traitor and ought to be killed.

White Citizens Councils... recall them ???

Not out of Wisconsin.
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