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everythingsxen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:05 PM
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Something that bugs me about religious films...
I was in Blockbuster last night and they have a display of "Inspirational Movies" which is pretty much every Jesus film there is.

What I wanna know is, where are the films about the Jews (like the various sieges they have had to fend off, or attacking Jericho with the arc) or the films about Mohammad and the various Islamic struggles.

..just my 2 shekels.
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:08 PM
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1. The Ten Commandments
Edited on Tue Mar-01-05 05:09 PM by NWHarkness
That's about the only movie I can think of that deals with Judaism as a historical drama.

Islam does not permit representations of the Prophet, so that limits the possibilities for a movie. There was one made, I think it starred nthony Quinn, and it was extremely controversial.
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:11 PM
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2. Massadah
Great inspirational flick about rebellion and standing up for your right to exist
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 01:19 AM
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16. There was a whole slew of Bible movies in the 1950s:
The Story of Ruth, Solomon and Sheba, Samson and Delilah, Ben Hur, The Robe, Barabbas, The Big Fisherman (about St. Peter)..

(Okay, Ben Hur and The Robe aren't directly based on the Bible, but they are based on religious novels.)

Most of these movies were pretty cheezy and seemed to be excuses to show Canaanite orgies as examples of "wickedness." :-)
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:11 PM
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3. Good Grief..everythinsxen...Get a Grip!
Geez..You act like Jesus was a Jew or something.

It's just another example of the "Christians" in complete denial of the history of this worlds religious past.
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CatBoreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:11 PM
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4. I remember there was a mini series...
...called Massada (sp?) about 20 years ago about the Jewish resistance to the Roman occupation. Somehow about 100 Jews locked themselves into essentially a fort and managed to hold off the Roman army for a long period of time, possibly years.

Let me see what I can find.
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CatBoreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:14 PM
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7. Found stuff...
Here's a link to the Massada site: http://www.travelnet.co.il/israel/BeerSheva/beer22-MASSADA.htm

Here's a link to the mini series:

http://tinyurl.com/4hb7c

From Amazon:

This 1981 television miniseries, based on Ernest K. Gann's historical novel The Antagonists, is a dramatization of a documented revolt by nearly a thousand Jerusalem Jews against Roman oppressors in A.D. 72 to 73. Following a city-wide siege by Rome's soldiers, Jewish Zealots move into a fortress in the mountains of Masada, from which they present a defense strong enough to convince the enemy to negotiate. Peter O'Toole, in all his golden dignity, plays Cornelius Flavius Silva, commander of the Roman legions, and Peter Strauss is Zealot leader Eleazar ben Yair. Both are outstanding as representatives from each side trying, in good faith, to find a way out of the deadlocked situation. Unfortunately, neither realizes that Rome has no intention of yielding, resulting in one of the greatest tragedies in Jewish history.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:22 PM
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12. On IMDB too
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 09:49 PM
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15. Oh yeah, I remember this story.
I didn't see the series, but I remember learning about the Masada thing in Bible study class (in my progressive Christian church).
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:12 PM
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5. There was just a movie on the life of Mohammed.
But there's a problem--there's a prohibition on any representation of the prophet.

It may have been animation.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:18 PM
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9. It was done from "first person" perspective
as if seen through the prophet's eyes. Gets around that little prohibition.
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Madrocker10891 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:13 PM
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6. It bugs me too!
When the say "Inspirational Movies" what do they mean? Insperational to who? To everyone? Or just the majority? What exactly are the movies trying to inspire??????:think:


Madrocker :headbang:
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:20 PM
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11. "The kids are alright" and "The song remains the same" work for me
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:14 PM
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8. the history of the world by Mel Brooks?
/sarcasm
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:18 PM
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10. And Hooray! Mel Gibson is filming the story of the Maccabees!
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 04:21 AM
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17. That's cool! I'm glad he plans to do it and hope he films

"Judith and Holofernes" as well. I posted a whole thread about this so it would get more notice. :-)
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:35 PM
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13. My favorite religious films usually have Christopher Walkin in
them. The prophesy series is great. Treats angels as the bible does; no warm fuzzy nice-nice cherubs these. Then there's Stigmata and the Exorcist series not to mention Dogma.

Maybe my idea of inspirational is a bit twisted . . .
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CatBoreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:21 PM
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14. Isn't Viggo in there as well....
as the anti-christ?? And what's with the bear????
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 04:32 AM
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18. Why don't you suggest to them that it would be nice to see

"The Ten Commandments" and other films with Jewish heroes on display?

Whoever decided to set up the display was probably thinking about Easter coming up when they decided on the theme. Now, they should have thought about Passover coming up, too, but people are fallible and they may not have intended any slight. Give them the benefit of the doubt and just make a suggestion. (And make sure "Ten Commandments" isn't already in the display first. )

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magnussun Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 06:51 PM
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19. Bias against Islam in films, not Jews
"What I wanna know is, where are the films about the Jews (like the various sieges they have had to fend off, or attacking Jericho with the arc) or the films about Mohammad and the various Islamic struggles."

Films about the Old Testament, and the Holocaust, are all over the place. None about Mohammad. But the 13th warrior is a film about an Islamic poet who lives amongst the Vikings. What I want to know about is biblical history, from the Islamic pov. Were the Amkelites and Philistines really that terrible and the Israelites innocent victims all the time? I'd like to see a more authentic portrayal of biblical history, where both sides are represented and bad stuff, such as cutting off 200 Philistine foreskins and the extermination of ancient biblical races is not omitted.

M

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