What does it take to create a theofascist state?

[Cell Whitman]

reading goodboy's important post/report brought this to mind and I thought I'd see what the folks here in the religious freedom forum thought about it...

You know, we've always had extremists, Birchers, theocrats, fascists and the like out there but they stayed where they belonged, a very, very small minority. They were politically impotent groups which the media knew to ignore or expose because they were...well, "extremists" who the majority knew full well would take our republic wildly off course.

IMHO, They needed two main ingredients for their "theofascist" movement to gain control of our nation.(a process still blooming around us)

One. They needed a political environment where they could operate without fear of being exposed for the un-American and constitution subverting groups which they so plainly are. This "environment" needed to support or stand by as they spread the disinformation and blatant lies to which they are so closely associated with today. Through this cult like information control, they would be in a postion to con more people into supporting their cause or worse, hoodwink them into silence. In this "environment," they would be able to convince/confuse enough of middle America that the "theocratic option" was the lesser of two evils. The choices of evils being an Americanized theofascist state masquerading as a democracy or the picture of ALL other options created in their minds by the "environment."

Two. Of course there have been a lot of players in all this. But those, like the Moral Majority, were floundering jokes in the early eighties when this theocratic movement took hold. The theo movement needed someone to bring them together for power, someone to show them how the game was played. They needed someone to raise them up by bringing them together and by showing them how to operate in the political field. When they needed bailing out, like Falwell and Viguerie, they needed a sugar daddy with bottomless pockets to pick them up, dust them off, give them a pocketful of cash and a theocratic pat on the butt. They needed a straw to stir their theofascist drink. The "Christian" theocrats needed someone to lead them out of the 40 year liberal wilderness their "environment" told them existed.


In short, they needed a Savior.



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[Ian_rd]

1. New term?

Did you coin the term "Theofascism"?

I've never heard it before, but that is a spectacular word to describe the governing party, as they are creating some kind of strange and twisted offspring from Corporatism (per Mussolini) and Theocracy. While it may not resemble Christianity by any stretch of the imagination, it attempts to grant a divine mandate behind fascist ideology.

[Cell Whitman]

5. I had never heard it when I first started using it a few years ago.

I have seen it since, I think even here at DU. I am sure I wasn't the first but I have always thought it the best description of them. Christofascist kind of makes you think they are Christian. I don't think most of them are, certainly not their leaders.

I don't think Jesus Christ ever did a thing to deserve what they do in His name.

How many souls do you reckon Falwell has chased away? To call him "Christian" is a crime, imho.

Anywho, I figure we shouldn't soil the good name of the United States of America with what they are changing her into...

I think if we are not there we are close enough to call her the "Theofascist States of America" that would come out at the Olympics like this...


TSA - TSA -TSA - TSA!!!!

Appears photos are down on my computer as I post -- the whole punchline of my original post was the photo. hah

let's see if I can get the imagebucket to work here so
you can see what someone who has never read John 5:43 does.

[Tux]

7. Add this one

Makes one wonder who Republicans really represent.

[wtbymark]

2. a couple of words...

IT'S ALREADY HAPPENED!!



-we are at war and our enemy is The Fellowship

[Cell Whitman]

6. I know you are right but

as someone who wrote a big old post on the old MWO board on how our democracy was dead the day 1/3 of Congress appeared on the "host" committee list for the Washington Times 20th birthday bash in 2002 - at which Moon spoke and told the crowd he was the one -----

and as someone who used to get laughed at when I preached that theoland was... well......

--- I guess I still try to make believe a "pendulum" has been made that will turn this around. That it exists. Believe me, I have spent much time the last few years knowing that I was lying to myself. haha

Most people don't understand what I mean when I say Moon could sell the Washington Times tomorrow, it has done it's job. I believe Moon has been having himself crowned not only because he is a lunatic but he feels it is game-set-match, theoworld. Mr. and Mrs. Messiah now sport over 600 crowns from 160 nations.

I guess I am saying I have been belly aching about this for so long I have to try to keep the dream alive even if it is by changing the tense of sentence or two...

but I do agree with you...

[Roland99]

3. "Theofacism"....nice ring to it.

[EVDebs]

4. All it takes is an 'end times' view that is totally errant scripturally

See

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3690033&mesg_id=3690371

The 'futurist' eschatology, based upon Jesuit Counter-Reformation propaganda in order to point the finger away from the Papacy as to the identity of antichrist, which the Reformation preachers were showing, has now been inserted into Protestant mainline churches. This seems to have been planned, due to Hal Lindsey's being a consultant to the CIA. In fact, the CIAs leadership has long been top heavy with Knights of Malta, a fiercely loyal Catholic brotherhood since the Crusades, when they were called the Knights Hospitallers. "Wild Bill" Donovan, William Casey, James Jesus Angleton, Allen Dulles, John McCone, etc., etc., were all KOM members.

The works of John J. Robinson, Born In Blood: The Lost Secrets of Freemasonry, and Dungeon, Fire and Sword: The Knights Templar in the Crusades, show us that the Knights Templar--persecuted and excommunicated by the Pope and King of France in 1307--eventually 'morphed' into the Freemasons of modern day. Freemasons have always been anti-Papacy, pro-revolutionary. Witness George Washington (and virtually all of the Founding Fathers), Porfirio Diaz, Simon Bolivar, Giuseppe Garibaldi, Alexander Kerensky...the list could go on, but you get the picture.

Now, in more modern times, the 'futurist' eschatology of Francisco Ribera, long spurnned by the Protestant churches, has now become the accepted end-times world view, overtaking 'historicism', which shows the Papacy as the antichrist.

Furthermore, 'futurism' requires a Third Temple in Jerusalem, and the destruction of the Al Aqsa Mosque. No wonder the Muslims are up in arms ! Since the end of WWII this Left Behind scenario of the end times has been a rationalization, and scripturally unsound one at that, for all that has gone on in the Middle East.

It seems that a reevaluation is sorely needed. I suggest truthseekers take a look at Steven Wohlberg's book End Time Delusions and see for themselves
http://www.endtimeinsights.com/site/v2_3/content/view/31/63/

Our Freemasonic Founding Fathers, especially George Washington, knew that religious tolerance was a necessity. But behind the scenes there was always that Freemasonic distrust of the Catholic church's vast hierarcy of power. Want proof ? Look into the story of the 'Theft of the Pope's Stone' with the Washington Monument
www.nps.gov/wamo/history/chap3.htm
and ask yourself 'why' did they get so irate about a simple block of marble going into a memorial to George Washington (an honored Freemason) ? Rather obvious if you look into the history of Freemasons a.k.a. the Knights Templar.