Perhaps one reason for the conflict today is where people are coming from

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

It seems to me that a lot of people operate solely out of the head. That is where logic is, of course, but also where raw emotions and reactions take place.

There is another way, of course, and that is to operate out of the heart. The heart is, in fact, stronger I think than the brain in many ways. I know when one breathes through the heart and opens it up, intuitive flashes become more frequent, and one can find a sense of peace, understanding, and power that is not found by working strictly from the brain.

But each has their own path to follow. The goal is the same, even for those who don't believe it. May the veils of the mind be lifted from the heart so that Truth be known.

[Pharaoh]

1. Yes I agree wholeheartedly

No pun intended,

I am refocusing my efforts this year to re-open my heart in a way I only briefly experienced years ago, It was quite a mystical and beautiful experience, The Ego operates out of the mind, but has no access to the heart, so it is this we must strive for. The very extinction of humanity lies in the balance, :nuke:

[bloom]

2. I agree with that.

It seems like a contradictory thing - you might think those who operate from the head would NOT be operating out of emotions and reactions. Of course THAT is what the head would say :) .


I think that is part of what I have been wrestling with. It is one thing to intellectually reject god/desses - if one wants to be logical and all.

It's another thing to reject all that seems illogical - such as one's heart, one's intuition, the insights you get from meditation.

Even Sam Harris (the big anti-religionist) claims to meditate - to like Zen. Of course - I see Zen as a religion - so I see him as illogical :) .

Being overly sure in one's logic and being overly sure that others are illogical seems like a problem - esp. when it comes to religion.


Or the whole myth thing. Some people think that they are so smart because they don't believe in myths. But it seems to me that the thing about myths is the message in the myth. The fact that some (really illogical) people think that some myths are true should not keep people from learning the messages that can be found in myths. Of course - even then - people are not going to all agree about what the myths mean.

I've been reading about the Adam and Eve myth - and how the Gnostics had all of the interpretations that are completely contradictory to what is now the standard Christian interpretation. Religion shouldn't be about - "this is the only interpretation" of this thing. That is someone's logic (or what they think to be their logic) taking over.

Anyway - I agree that logic (or what we think is logic) can get in the way of productive thinking. As illogical as that can seem.

:hi: