They can't get over Mary Jo.

[Imalittleteapot]

More times than I can count, right wingers cite Ted Kennedy's accident and the sad death of Mary Jo Kopechne. Just this morning, a C-Span caller called Ted a murderer.

A few minutes ago I opened an email with the following message:

Subject: Fw: Quotable Quote

"What the American people have seen is this incredible disparity in which
those people who had cars and money got out and those people who were
impoverished drowned."

-- Ted Kennedy on Hurricane Katrina


"Ditto"

-- Mary Jo Kopechne

It is sad that the most they can pin of Teddy is a tragic accident. When are they going after Bush for all of the death and destruction he has caused?

[sinkingfeeling]

1. Ask them about Laura's little accident.

[Imalittleteapot]

6. Good one. I'm going to google it now. Thanks for the

tit for tat.

[oldtime dfl_er]

9. quid pro quo

eom

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/1097640

[Midlodemocrat]

10. Can you imagine if it had been Hillary?

The press would have crucified her. Big Dog would have never been elected.

The hypocrisy is stunning.

[NYCGirl]

16. Yep, let's show those freepers we can be every bit as obsessed about

car accidents as they are!

[bunkerbuster1]

18. It's call hardball

And if we can't play it, we'd best go home.

Just sayin'.

[NYCGirl]

23. Hardball is telling the freepers that Chappaquiddick happened in 1969,

Kennedy has long since paid his dues in many different ways, and to get over it. Hardball is not about pulling up another tragic incident which can't really be compared since the person involved is not an elected official and was 17 at the time. Sticking out one's tongue and saying, "well, so and so did it, too!" isn't hardball, it's childball, IMO. Just sayin'

[bunkerbuster1]

28. I don't argue with your priorities

I'd be the first to tell them, first, that it was 36+ years ago, and tell them to get over it.

But you'd be surprised (or maybe not?) how many RWers really don't know anything about Laura's accident. I see no problem in bringing it up if a Freeper continues to make a stink.

[NYCGirl]

31. And if they had any compassion,

they'd feel sorry for Laura (as I did when I heard the story). It must've been sheer hell for a 17 year old girl to deal with that guilt. But I guess freepers don't have any compassion.

[Left Is Write]

20. That was my first thought as well.

[1620rock]

2. ...amen...n/t

[Loonman]

3. Or Joe Scarborough and a bowling ball

Why did Lori Klausotis(sic) end up dead in Joe's office?

[Little Star]

13. Good One! n/t

[shance]

4. How about Arlen Spector and his role in the cover up of JFK?

He was the creator and promoter of the ridiculous "Magical Bullet" theory that claimed that one bullet repeatedly hit John F. Kennedy and John Connelly.

He should have been a fiction writer. Perhaps he tried, but because he has no gift, became a GOP operative instead.

[Catherine Vincent]

5. So true.

Whenever Mr. Kennedy is in the news, the right wing cspan callers pull out that MJK card. That did it Sunday to Mona Charen and also today to Sen. Grassley. I don't know why they do this because whoever the guest is that day don't ever comment on it.

[lazarus]

7. Laura Bush and Michael Douglas

She ran a stop sign and killed him. It happens.

[Balbus]

21. Damn! I really liked him in the "Wonder Boys"

:(

[Ezlivin]

8. Is there a satisfactory explanation for Ted Kennedy's behavior?

I had read "Death at Chappaquiddick" by Thomas L. Tedrow a couple of decades ago and he put the blame squarely on Kennedy's shoulders for the death of Mary Jo Kopechne.

Is there more to the story that meets the eye? Was it part of a larger conspiracy?

It seems like either Kennedy should be in prison or there should be some answer that would silence his critics.

[Divernan]

11. Ted K. made a fatal error in judgement while drunk, BUT since then

his life of public service has more than redeemed him in my eyes. A coward would have walked away from public life, in light of the hatred directed at him, but he "stayed the course" as Bushie would put it.

[Imagevision]

34. Problem is sometimes you believe what you read >

Oswald was a lone gunman...! T. Kennedy was set up because they knew he would re-open the investigation if elected President... google it...!

[Fredda Weinberg]

24. what he did wasn't criminal

It was creepy ... instead of calling the police he went back to the family compound and the PR machine was started. The worst part was the initial story, which blamed the victim.

Sorry, but I remember when this happened.

[Imagevision]

33. and who exactly was Thomas L. Tedrow? -- a book seller!

[Burried News]

12. Their problem isn't that Mary Joe died - it is that Teddy survives. nt

[MrMonk]

26. but they don't mind defaming Mary Jo as a slut

The Kopechne's lived in my town at the time. Reports were that they were nearly as shocked over the implications against their daughter's character as they were over her death.

[LibDemAlways]

14. I have wingnut cousins who never

fail to bring up "killer Kennedy." He actually plead guilty to leaving the scene of an accident and there was a full coroner's inquest at which he testified. I'm sure the events of that night have haunted him since, and the freeper-types should give it a rest.

Laura Bush,on the other hand, was never cited or held legally accountable for the accident in which she plowed into the car of a classmate, killing him. The one interview I read in which she was even asked about it, she sort of brushed off the question. No remorse. The only time I'd ever dredge it up,though, is as a comeback to an idiotic freeper who thinks only Kennedys are involved in fatal car wrecks.

[dflprincess]

15. What people forget is

in 1969 car accidents (even drunk driving accidents) were not taken especially seriously by the law or society in general (unless, I'm sure, you or a loved one were a victim of a drunk driver). It wasn't right, that's the way it was.

In 1972 my friend's brother killed another friend in a car accident. If I recall correctly, they were on their way back from Hudson, WI where the drinking age was 18 (Minnesota was still at 21). The friend was a passenger, the brother was well above the the legal limit. He had his license suspended for a while and, I think, paid a fine (which I think is about what Ted got). Believe me, his family didn't have any pull.

What the wingnuts really don't want us to forget is that the woman in Kennedy's care was not his wife. I'll bet if the passenger had been a male we wouldn't have heard nearly as much about this.

[tenshi816]

35. The exact same thing happened to my mother's uncle.

He lost his license for a year but didn't even have to pay a fine, even though he killed someone when he hit a car while driving drunk.

Years later, while also driving drunk with my father as a passenger, the same uncle hit another car head on that nearly killed my dad (he was on life support for a little while, but eventually made a complete recovery). My mom's uncle walked away yet another time with only a slap on the wrist.

Would it surprise anyone to know that he's now a right-wing fundie who passes judgement on all and sundry for their sinful lives?

[bunkerbuster1]

17. Always answer "Michael Douglas" when you hear "Mary Jo."

lather, rinse, repeat.

[NYCGirl]

25. Isn't he married to Catherine Zeta-Jones?

:evilgrin:

[Orangepeel]

19. Is this the date it happened? Why is this all over the place now?

?

[Sydnie]

22. Because they are trying to shut Ted up about Alito

and they will use any means they can.

the C-Span caller this morning used the phrase that I saw on a freeper poster in benburch's thread the other day. It was a shill call, with all the "right" things to say. Hope he earned his money.


edit - typo

[bunkerbuster1]

29. The freepers whine about the accident EVERY. TIME. HE's. ON.

every time.

That's because their RW radio goons do it first.

[Orangepeel]

39. it sure is coordinated

(I guess that's no surprise)

My hometown rag just started printing "Mallard Fillmore" next to Doonesbury. His strip today was also about this.

[FreedomAngel82]

27. Whenever one of them do that with me

I just bring up Laura Bush. That pretty much shuts them up from my experiences.

[Swamp Rat]

30. And I cite the sad death of Pickle's boyfriend.

:D

[tenshi816]

32. They'll never get over the Clenis either.

Tough shit, I say.

[Tactical Progressive]

36. Bush's wife killed as many people as Ted Kennedy did

Bush kills as many people every ten minutes of his life - on purpose, as Ted Kennedy did in his entire life by accident.

[Tactical Progressive]

37. Ron Reagan tortured more people to death every day

in Central America than Ted Kennedy ever killed by accident once in his entire life.

[madinmaryland]

38. If they are going to bring that up,

then remind them of Phil Giordano Repub Candidate for senate against Lieberman in 2000, now serving 37 years for *** with girls.

Values you say?