This breaks my heart

[LoKnLoD]

I don't see too many of those dots in the great BushLand - Dumbfuckistan, USA

Military Deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan



Interactive map is here http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/palmbeachpost/news/soldier0704/index.html

sorry if posted already

[Broken_Hero]

1. what

are the larger red dots for? what do they mean?

[w4rma]

2. 11 - 43 killed from one town. (nt)

[Broken_Hero]

26. thanks n/t

[NMDemDist2]

5. 11-43 deaths in the bigger cities like Phoenix and Vegas

dark green =1
lite green =2-5
orange = 6-10

[Broken_Hero]

25. thanks n/t

[LoKnLoD]

7. Concentration of casualties

[Broken_Hero]

24. thanks n/t

[Emit]

8. War deaths grouped by hometown

Dark Green -- 1
Light Green -- 2 to 5
Orange -- 6 to 10
Red -- 11to 43

According to the legend at the link.

[Broken_Hero]

23. thanks n/t

[Raine]

3. Most of the dots are in blue states

I thought that it was red states that were so pro-bush, pro-war and rah rah Americans. :shrug:

[Vidar]

19. More chickenhawks.

[MissWaverly]

4. is it my imagination or are those heaviest in blue states

[jobycom]

6. I dunno, looks pretty demographically proportionate

The vaste empty areas are also far less populated, it looks to me at first glance, anyway.

[w4rma]

9. That is a heck of a lot of dots from rural Vermont. (nt)

[bbinacan]

11. In all fairness

the VT. dots are the dark green ones(1)and the small size of the state exaggerates the appearance. Still depressing though.

[jobycom]

13. Yeah, probably. Look at Texas.

Definitely red, and three reds (San Antonio, Houston, and Dallas, looks like) along with a lot of green. Look at New Orleans and Gulfport/Biloxi, and you get an idea of why there was no national gaurd to call up after Katrina. WIth that many dots for that small a population, Bush should have done cartwheels for them. I'll punch the next Republican who claims the "support the troops."

I don't know the Northeast that well. You're probably right, that's a lot of dots. I think of that as all city, but now that I look at it closer, I realize how much rural area that covers.

[Monkeyman]

22. Not Worth breaking your hand Brother

Just call them the cut and ran bunch of cowards

[jobycom]

31. Easy for you to say

That was my home, where all my family lives, all my relatives, many of my best friends. No, it's worth a broken hand to me.

[Monkeyman]

10. Yep IL GET HIT HARD

We just buried a 23 year old kid today with two kids. His wife broke down an called Bush a friging basterd. The kid was depolyed three times. Wife had to move in with inlaws they lost their house.Yep this crap break my heart

[me b zola]

27. Monkeyman, are you the poster who is working with Vets?

Sorry for my faulty memory.

And yes, this is all so heartbreaking.




on edit: I did not mean to imply that there is only one DUer who volunteers and gives so much to veterans issues--there are many DUers who do so.

[Monkeyman]

28. I am the Head of Veterans For Progress IL

I work with vets and returning troops to help the recieve their benefits the Replugs don't want them to have them. We helped get a veterans lottery ticket for veterans 100% of the money goes to vets an famlies of the kids in the war zones.We helped pass a law that the VA reports to IL. Veterans Affair Committee. And we are all Democrats some where Republicans like me at one time but came into the light its nice in this light we see more clearly. I ran the State of IL Veterans For Kerry and kick butt yep I work for vets and to get all of our freedoms back that Bush took

[RagingInMiami]

29. Maybe you can tell me

How did the military vote in 2004? I don't remember ever hearing about it. I remember in 2000 they mostly voted for Bush and the results were published less than a week after the election.

[me b zola]

32. Many thanks to you, Monkeyman, for all that you do for veterans

:hug:

[MissWaverly]

12. list of states receiving most US money vs states getting least

1. States Receiving Most in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid:
1. D.C. ($6.17)
2. North Dakota ($2.03)
3. New Mexico ($1.89) (flipped Red in 2004)
4. Mississippi ($1.84)
5. Alaska ($1.82)
6. West Virginia ($1.74)
7. Montana ($1.64)
8. Alabama ($1.61)
9. South Dakota ($1.59)
10. Arkansas ($1.53)

States Receiving Least in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid:
1. New Jersey ($0.62)
2. Connecticut ($0.64)
3. New Hampshire ($0.68) (flipped Blue in 2004)
4. Nevada ($0.73)
5. Illinois ($0.77)
6. Minnesota ($0.77)
7. Colorado ($0.79)
8. Massachusetts ($0.79)
9. California ($0.81)
10. New York ($0.81)
http://bigpicture.typepad.com/writing/2004/11/red_states_feed.html

[Psephos]

14. I don't agree with calling the heartland Dumbfuckistan

Broad brushes are the tools of bigots. I'm not calling you a bigot; I'm saying that we use bigots' tools (and sweeping generalizations) at our peril. The country is far more granular than can be described in one careless statement.

To my eyes, the dots on the map correlate rather neatly with population distribution.

In most of the red states and the blue states, single digits of percentages separate those who supported Kerry and those who supported Bush. We can't afford to alienate potential Dem voters in the next election with snobbish put-downs...especially when they aren't true. With few exceptions, the red states and the blue states are actually purple.

Here's an excellent dissection of the *actual* demographics of the electorate, by Pew Research. Even if you only skim this, you will find astonishing refutations of what passes for common knowledge around here. There is no excuse for us to be ignorant when this kind of research is easily available.

http://people-press.org/reports/pdf/196.pdf

Just my $0.02 worth....

Peace.

Edit: removed a redundancy

[LoKnLoD]

16. ok...

Utah, Idaho and Wyoming then.... :evilgrin:

And I live in Utah the capital of it. "Do you think Bush is a good President?" "Yes" "Why?" "Well he believes in God"

Dumbfuck...just my opinion.

[bluedeminredstate]

15. I know NH is small, but it's

totally green. Mass is pretty bad too ("Liberal Massachusetts"). Wouldn't want to be the Governors with all those families to speak to.

:cry:

[Up2Late]

17. Humm, lets compair it to this one...

<http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/>

[Ediacara]

18. This one is also helpful

[Psephos]

20. Very helpful n/t

[whistle]

21. What would this map look like in prior U.S. wars in the last 65 years....

...Vietnam, Korea, WWII?

[LoKnLoD]

30. Lots more of red dots

and still heart breaking, lots of hurting families and friends.