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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 04:57 PM
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Kerry is taking a huge leap OUT of "politics as usual"!!!
The man is driven by conviction and through courage!!! I back him AND ALL THOSE SENATORS WHO JOIN HIM - one hundred ten percent!!!!

Anyone with a smidgeon of knowledge, a dash of foresight and a pinch of wisdom would have the foresight to acknowledge precisely how precarious an Alito nomination would be to the direction and future of this nation.

ANYONE supporting the nomination of this man does NOT deserve to be a representative of the people because they are risking accumulation of power to ONE MAN, a POTUS. It's bad enough that so many representatives have allowed, even facilitated concentration of wealth and power to a few. However, allowing the theory of "unitary executive" to be adopted is sure destruction of this democratic republic with a totalitarianism as the replacement.

Every single one of the Republicans have proven their willingness to sacrifice our people and our form of government. For what? For favor and power and profit? Those few Democrats who are lost in the shadows need to get the fuck on board, this ONE TIME!!! The abuses of power and criminalities of this pResident and his administration are on the brim of being exposed. DO NOT ALLOW THEM TO SET UP A SAFETY NET FOR THEMSELVES AND A SITUATION WHERE THIS DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTION WILL BE EASILY VIOLATED BY THEM!!!

Right before us is THE crossroad to the future of our nation. We must back all those with the conviction and courage to take a stand against choosing the wrong path, the path that destroys the balance of powers so necessary to overcoming yet another totalitariansim. We must encourage the confused or mistaken or otherwise to unite with us.

That is all.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 05:02 PM
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1. K&R. "We the People ..." take back our country this weekend ...
Peace.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 05:04 PM
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2. Hee. Just Me, this is great.
:-)
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 05:07 PM
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3. Kerry giving us an up or down vote on a filibuster. That's couragous.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 05:17 PM
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4. Kerry LISTENS to the Democratic base and does not ignore us.
That is why I have his back.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 05:30 PM
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6. He is validating every reason why I supported/support him.
Edited on Fri Jan-27-06 06:24 PM by Just Me
He demonstrated an impactful conviction decades ago. He's proven his courage time and time, again. He's taken on the powers that be like no other man I know. As a result, he's gained precisely the experiences, knowledge and wisdom necessary to be a truly, great leader. No wonder the powers that be attack him at every opportunity: his advocacy for this nation and her people is pure - that's threatening to those who don't give a damn about anything/one but themselves and their own interests.

I wish he was our POTUS, today. Everything would be different. Everything. But, he's not. Nevertheless, he's still a powerful leader; hopefully, our next POTUS.

Kerry inspires me BY ACTION rather than cheap, empty hubris. I will fully support him whatever his endeavor.
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mousie Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 06:04 PM
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8. He'll be a GREAT President!!! Thank you, John Kerry!!
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jenndar Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 05:26 PM
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5. You are right.
It's important for us to ignore the RW's spin on this. He's being incredibly brave, and that's something you can't fake.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 05:40 PM
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7. Kerry is a sagittarius -

I am a bit flaky with the astrology....but I know Sags. My husband is one. In my heart, I believe that Kerry did not fight the election results, not out of cowardice, but because he can not comprehend such dishonesty. Sags are SO honest. To a fault (like I said, I am married to one). And, some have a blind spot that others can be that deceptive. They are so far from thinking that way. I think Kerry is one of those centaurs.

He is a good man.

He has redeemed himself in my eyes.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 06:48 PM
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9. If you knew anything about astrology you would know that it provides
Edited on Fri Jan-27-06 06:48 PM by BlueIris
just one more kind of proof that Kerry fought his guts out to substantiate election fraud. Not that we need the cosmos to tell us that. Those of us who bothered to do any research into this subject, anyway.

Some advice? We have special forums here showcasing the evidence accrued about election fraud in 2004, which include information about Kerry's role in the investigations into it. Avail yourself of them.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 06:56 PM
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10. He has busted his ass, which is why I get VERY UPSET,...
,...by those who pretend he has done "too little, too late" and other such demeaning crap. The man has worked a hundred times harder to protect us than any measly republican who doesn't give a shit about anyone other than themselves.

Kerry is an honorable man with integrity. His actions speak volumes about whose interests he serves. He is remarkable and earned my respect long ago.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 07:29 PM
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11. Yeah. It just makes me want to throw things at the willfully ignorant.
Edited on Fri Jan-27-06 07:30 PM by BlueIris
As someone who has spent hundreds of hours reading about, talking about and protesting in support of his efforts WRT fraud in '04, I just weep for the people who insist he did nothing because they have been too stupid, lazy and obsessed with their own pathetic lives to get the facts. Facts are required to make judgments, even valid judgments. Those who say he "didn't fight" always lose credibility with me. Usually most of it. Because: he did. A lot. A lot harder than even I suspected at the time. Those who honestly believe he did not fight need to go do some research. It's not that hard. The information about his actions is available for all to find who seek it. And until the haters learn to read, they really need to stow it. They're just embarrassing themselves.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:43 AM
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15. I happen to be one of those people who do not believe he has
done enough on the stolen election and I am neither stupid, lazy or obsessed with my pathetic life. HE SHOULD HAVE NEVER CONCEDED SO QUICKLY - did you hear Mark Crispin Miller last night stating that Kerry told Edwards if we don't concede they will call us sore losers - and Edwards response waa SO WHAT...and then he recently LIED/DENIED about saying to Mark Crispin Miller he believed the election was stolen.

Just because someone doesn't agree with your judgement of the facts does not make them stupid. John Kerry and all the Democrats should be damn well making an issue of election fraud right now because if they don't get this fixed we will never win another election.

I don't hate Kerry I just think he did a couple of things that were VERY outside the character and reputation he had built over the many years of public service - and I believe he did both for political expediency. One voting yes on the Iraq War Resolution and two conceding the election so quickly.

I am very proud of his actions this week, this is the John Kerry I knew before he started running for President and personally I'm glad he's back and hope he stays - but don't call people stupid or lazy or too busy with their pathetic lives just because we feel differently about his efforts with election fraud.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:56 AM
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16. LOL - Your source is Mark Crispin Miller?
Was Mark Crispin Miller in the room when Kerry had this conversation with Edwards? I doubt it.

I just find it ironic that you're so eager to believe Miller's accounts of everything, when at the very least, he demonstrated a lack of ethics by blabbing his alleged conversation with Kerry to the whole world - if that conversation did in fact happen as Miller tells it, which I highly doubt, it was off-the-record and therefore Miller has no journalistic standards. He's a relatively obscure professor trying to sell a book. Really, all his "sekrit" accounts of what Edwards and Kerry supposedly said on Nov. 2nd sounds like a bad game of telephone. Miller's got to be at least three or four sources removed from anyone who would have been privy to Edwards and Kerry's private conversations, and that's being generous. I think the man's a huckster, and relying on him to form your impression of Kerry is pretty ludicrous. Maybe you like what he has to say about election fraud, but that doesn't mean everything the man says is the Gospel Truth. He's already more than demonstrated a willingness to bend facts to get attention for himself, so you should take everything he says - ESPECIALLY when it comes to so-called "confidential" information about politician he has no private access to - with many grains of salt.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 01:20 AM
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19. You have missed the point of my post
we are not going to change each other's minds on this issue - and I'm not interested in changing yours. You are perfectly free to think Kerry worked very hard on the stolen election and I am perfectly free to believe he didn't I do not rely soely on Mark Crispin Miller but I do choose to believe him and you are free not to believe him - I am just pointing out to you that you should not accuse people of being stupid, lazy or too busy with their pathetic lives because we happen not to interpret the evidence as you do. And maybe John Edwards will write a tell all one day and we'll get his side of the story - doesn't really matter

You see "working hard" is very subjective - you have your opinion and I have mine - I don't think you're stupid - I don't hate John Kerry - I just don't agree with your opinion or his actions - all I'm saying is please cut the personal attacks ok

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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 03:28 AM
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22. I don't think you're stupid
I just wish more people realized that John Kerry was literally in a position to do nothing more than what he is currently doing (still involved in lawsuits in Ohio). Without a smoking gun, his hands are tied. And I don't think a smoking gun exists as of yet. You are entitled to think that he should've done some things differently, but I hate when people accuse him of cowardice or of not caring. (Not saying you specifically are, but some people do.) That couldn't be further from the truth.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 09:11 AM
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23. You know I've been thinking about it
I said I'm not going to try to change your mind about Kerry's efforts and I won't but I would ask you to try not to dismiss Mark Crispin Miller so easily. Whether you agree with him about his remarks about Kerry or not the fact is he has done alot of research on election fraud. He is SO on the side of fair elections and we can use all the people like him we can find. I don't know if the state you live in has election fraud issues but I live in FL and my vote not being counted the way I cast it is a VERY REAL ISSUE for me. We should try to support anyone who is working to fix this screwed up mess.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 02:01 PM
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24. If his book brings the issue to light, then that is a good thing
I don't appreciate what he's said about Kerry for the reasons I've stated, and I think he is a flawed personality, but I hope his book can help to bring a positive outcome. Personally, I think the first and biggest hurdle we face is the Republican run media... truth will NEVER come to light as long as the whores are shilling for the GOP on every channel and station. A real media would have investigated the election irregularities already instead of marginalizing the issue.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 07:36 PM
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12. You are absolutely right!
This is the old John Kerry that so many of the "elder DUers" remember from his brave stance against the Vietnam war, and his confronting the crooks from the Iran-Contra scandals. This is the guy that Richard Nixon was so worried about.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:27 PM
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14. As was this current Nixon-wannabe. n/t
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 07:50 PM
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13. kick n/t
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BigYawn Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 01:03 AM
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17. Since Kerry came out FOR filibuster, I will now send him money...
even if filibuster loses, Kerry had the guts to openly
call for filibuster, and I commend him for trying.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 01:13 AM
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18. His speech was perfect. I was so impressed. Let's hope he'll be able
Edited on Sat Jan-28-06 01:15 AM by Wordie
to convince a few of the other Senators. Those were well thought out and convincing arguments, as far as I could see.

I wonder if Byrd saw it, as he covered a lot of constitutional issues. I found myself hoping that Byrd was watching and would consider his arguments.

Recommended.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 01:57 AM
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20. Does the future of the United States of American hinge on this one event?
Obviously it does.

Of course, we've gotten to THIS juncture because of so many other junctures along the way. We could make a whole list of them. Personally I've felt my whole life that not getting at the TRUTH of the JFK assassination was clear evidence that the United States was, in truth, not a real Republic. Someone got away with murdering the President in broad day light, and it was not a lone gunman. One can draw a direct line from that moment through several other assassinations, right on through the Regan administration, around Clinton, and then appearing again w/ the installation of BUSH II and the events of 9/11 and all that has emanated from it. The "vast right wing conspiracy" that Hillary spoke of while much of America rolled its eyes, is ready to transform the very meaning of Fredom into Subservience--with a smile.

History is by necessity mythological. Our understanding of who and what we are is based upon certain myths that we accept more or less without question from an early age. The United States has always presented to its own citizens, the myth that they were the greatest, wealthiest, most powerful, freedom loving, proud and heroic people ever to grace the surface of this planet. The question is, are the people of the United States of America going to fulfill their destiny and bring under control of law the ruthless criminal class that has corrupted its system of governance OR NOT?

We can see very clearly what an Alito seat on the Supreme Court guarantees us as an answer to this question.

BMU
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 02:31 AM
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21. if this works,
it might just be a turning point--a way to revive the Democratic party. So many of them seem to be just the way the Repubs characterize them: far too easiliy intimidated. Even tough old Harry Reid was showing signs of defeat.
Kerry is showing how to be the opposition--now maybe others will do the same. We know it's doing some good--the other side is on the attack. This is as good a time to take a stand as any. I think Kerry just got to the point where he had to act. At the risk of pulling up the old cliche--he's decided to turn the boat into the shore. Go on the offensive, just when the opposition thinks it's safe.
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