Americans Have Lost Their Country: Paul Craig Roberts

[seafan]

Americans Have Lost Their Country

By Paul Craig Roberts
March 1, 2007


The Bush-Cheney regime is America's first neoconservative regime. In a few short years, the regime has destroyed the Bill of Rights, the separation of powers, the Geneva Conventions and the remains of America's moral reputation, along with the infrastructures of two Muslim countries and countless thousands of Islamic civilians. Plans have been prepared, and forces moved into place, for an attack on a third Islamic country, Iran, and perhaps Syria and Hezbollah in Lebanon, as well.
This extraordinary aggressiveness toward the U.S. Constitution, international law and the Islamic world is the work not of a vast movement, but of a handful of ideologues — principally Vice President Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Lewis Libby, Douglas Feith, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Elliott Abrams, Zalmay Khalilzad, John Bolton, Philip Zelikow and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.
These are the main operatives who have controlled policy. They have been supported by their media shills at The Weekly Standard, National Review, Fox News, The New York Times, CNN and the Wall Street Journal editorial page, and by "scholars" in assorted think tanks, such as the American Enterprise Institute.


The entirety of their success in miring the United States in what could become permanent conflict in the Middle East is based on the power of propaganda and the big lie. .....
Having conned the United Nations, Congress and the American people, the regime invaded Iraq under totally false pretenses and with totally false expectations. The regime's occupation of Iraq has failed in a military sense, but the neoconservatives are turning their failure into a strategic advantage. At the beginning of this year, President Bush began blaming Iran for America's embarrassing defeat by a few thousand lightly armed insurgents in Iraq.
Bush accuses Iran of arming the Iraqi insurgents, a charge that experts regard as improbable. The Iraqi insurgents are Sunni. They inflict casualties on our troops, but spend most of their energy killing Iraqi Shi'ites, who are closely allied with Iran, which is Shi'ite. Bush's accusation requires us to believe that Iran is arming the enemies of its allies.
On the basis of this absurd accusation — a pure invention — Bush has ordered a heavy concentration of aircraft carrier attack forces off Iran's coast, and he has moved U.S. attack planes to Turkish bases and other U.S. bases in countries neighboring Iran.

.....


Why is the United States spending $1 trillion on wars, the reasons for which are patently false? What is going on?

There are several parts to the answer. .....
.....neoconservatives believe that they have a monopoly on virtue and the right to impose hegemony on the rest of the world. Neoconservative conquests began in the Middle East because oil and Israel, with which neocons are closely allied, are both in the Middle East.
American oil giant UNOCAL had plans for an oil and gas pipeline through Afghanistan, but the Taliban were not sufficiently cooperative. The U.S. invasion of Afghanistan was used to install Hamid Karzai, who had been on UNOCAL's payroll, as puppet prime minister. U.S. neoconservative Zalmay Khalilzad, who also had been on UNOCAL's payroll, was installed as U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan.
Two years later, Khalilzad was appointed U.S. ambassador to Iraq. American oil companies have been given control over the exploitation of Iraq's oil resources.
The Israeli relationship is perhaps even more important. In 1996, Richard Perle and the usual collection of neocons proposed that all of Israel's enemies in the Middle East be overthrown.

.....


The Bush-Cheney regime came to power with the plans drawn to attack the remaining independent countries in the Middle East and with neoconservatives in office to implement the plans. However, an excuse was required. Neoconservatives had called for "a new Pearl Harbor," and 9-11 provided the propaganda event needed in order to stampede the public and Congress into war. Neoconservative Philip Zelikow was put in charge of the 9-11 commission report to make certain no uncomfortable facts emerged.
The neoconservatives have had enormous help from the corporate media, from Christian evangelicals, particularly from the "Rapture Evangelicals," from flag-waving super-patriots and from the military-industrial complex, whose profits have soared. But the fact remains that the dozen men named in the second paragraph above were able to overthrow the U.S. Constitution and launch military aggression under the guise of a preventive/pre-emptive "war against terrorism."
When the American people caught on that the "war on terror" was a cloak for wars of aggression, they put Democrats in control of Congress in order to apply a brake to the regime's warmongering. However, the Democrats have proven to be impotent to stop the neoconservative drive to wider war and, perhaps, world conflagration.


We are witnessing the triumph of a dozen evil men over American democracy and a free press.

[Phredicles]

1. Severely recommended

[redqueen]

2. Pretty much sums it up.

K&R

[dkofos]

3. But Impeachment is off the table

I guess that means we are stuck with these evil BASTARDS

[Jim Warren]

33. Who's gonna do the impeaching?

The new crop of Dems?
Only thing I can see is that it looks like the power structure of the democratic party is just as beholding to the military-industrial complex as the pugs.

[brentspeak]

37. Dennis Kucinich and John Conyers are "beholden to the military-industrial complex"??

Both of them have stated that they're against impeachment hearings, because impeachment attempts would be ineffectual and merely prevent the Democrats from pursuing solid, needed legislation. But if you think that Kucinich and Conyers are lackey of corporate America...

[Jim Warren]

38. Kucinich no, ...... Conyers I'm not completely sure on

But I would say neither is a member of the power structure of the current Democratic party.

[KoKo]

43. Conyers as member of "Black Caucus" has targeted for "marginalization"

by the "Powers that BE." It's not Pelosi ...it's the others.

He's working hard trying to do what he can with his "hands tied behind his back."

[eridani]

46. Kucinich says it's on the table if Iran is attacked n/t

[Dhalgren]

4. K&R!

Jesus, that is a chilling summary of where our country has gone. And I mean that it is g-o-n-e. I cannot see a way back from where we have allowed these murderous bastards to take "our" country. We are so fucking over...

[donsu]

5. kick

nt

[Grateful for Hope]

6. k&r n/t

[Irishonly]

11. So Sad

I wanted to get mad when I read the article but instead I was filled with sadness. They have taken my Christianity and turned it into something I don't recognize. Their Christianity punishes and condemns. It imposed their morals on the world. It uses the old Testament to discriminate and kill. It seems like they forgot Christ's teaching.

They want to control the world and the ends have justified the means. They have lied, mismanaged and ignored suffering in our country. I don't see how anyone can question this evil administration wanted to invade Iraq and would do anything to achieve the goal. I was one who protested the invasion from the start because it didn't read right. Then when I was told Bush said that God told him to invade I was sure it was wrong. My God wouldn't tell anyone to invade and kill.

I have been watching a Frontline special on the media. Since watching I have decided we do not have a free media. Neocons control the corporations which own the media. You can't trust the media. I am so thankful for the blogs where we can find the truth. I am also glad the neocons can't get to PBS or the BBC.

[Karenina]

7. K&R

[cali]

8. Ugh. He's a racist right wing creep.

I don't care if he's right about some things, anymore than I care if David Duke is. I repudiate his politics and his bigotry in total.

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

14. I know he's a paleo-con. On what basis are you calling him racist?

Links, please.

[cali]

19. On the basis of the numerous racist articles he's written

and on the fact that he posts on v.dare and lewrockwell.com.

Here are some of the titles of articles he's written:

"Jesse Jackson's "Civil" Rights Protection Racket"

"Hate-Crimes Bill Itself A Hate Crime"

"A Second Look At "Crash". More Myths About Blacks And Racist Cops"

And oh yeah, his calling Brown v Board of Ed., the worst SC decision is history.

All I did was Google his name and racist. He's a real piece of shit.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Paul+Craig+Roberts+racist&btnG=Search

[Alcibiades]

23. If you Google Paul Craig Roberts and racist

You get 501,000 hits. Big deal. Google Barak Obama and racist gets 987,000 hits, googling Bill Clinton and racist gets 1,390,000 hits, etc.

We do live in a bizarro world wherein many of the values, rights and institutions conservatives of yesteryear honored are being destroyed by a radically ideological administration bent on pursuing a policy of trashing everything worthwhile. A few of these folks have woken up to this fact, and Paul Craig Roberts is one of them, and I salute him for that. He's a smart fellow and a good writer and nothing we say on the subject will change those facts--I'd rather have him arguing with us than against us, anyway.

As for his opinion on Brown, he offers no racist defense of Jim Crow. He is in favor of desegregation, but, as a conservative, he argued that Brown represented judicial excess and subverted democratic processes and institutions: "In pursuit of a just cause, they shattered the bedrock of jurisprudence – the impartiality of judges, subordinated the law to sociology, and replaced the democratic process and its appeal to goodwill with the rule of judges. The end, they thought, justified the means, and they led the Court in a new direction at odds with the American political tradition." Not a point of view I am sympathetic to, but not racist.

As far as racism goes, as an opponent of illegal immigration myself, I sometimes read V-DARE. Some of the stuff there--especially the pseudo-science on IQ and race--I think is racist. That doesn't make all the "journalists" who post there racist. You'll find posts that directly contradict one another on various issues, particularly the war. I don't find the fact that Roberts posts at the same site as Michelle Malkin particularly damning, even though I can't stand her.

As for Lew Rockwell, he's a libertarian, and quite critical of the way things have been going with the Bush Republicans. Can anyone who writes stuff such as "The War on Terror is impossible, not in the sense that it cannot cause immense amounts of bloodshed and destruction and loss of liberty, but in the sense that it cannot finally achieve what it is suppose to achieve, and will only end in creating more of the same conditions that led to its declaration in the first place." be all that bad? Yes, I disagree with Rockwell on just about everything, most fundamentally on his view of the state as an unnecessary evil (if he really feels that way, he should go live in Iraq or some other stateless place, perhaps Antarctica.)

I don't know if either of these men are racist in their hearts of hearts. Nothing they have written strikes me as overtly racist, at any rate. They are conservatives, and normally I'd be willing to assume the worst about any of them, but I welcome any American who wakes up to just how very, very bad the Bush administration has been for America.

[cali]

26. Much of what Roberts has written is racist.

He may be a bit cleverer about how he goes about it than some, but please, don't tell me he's not a racist. Post on a racist website, you ARE a racist. Period. By posting you're endorsing a pov. In addition,
that Brown is rooted in solid law isn't even arguable. You want to associate yourself with racists, that's your business, and that's exactly what you are doing.

[Alcibiades]

53. We can disagree

Even about such questions as whether Paul Craig Roberts is a racist. Perhaps I'm not as familiar with him as you are. From what little I know, however, I don't think he's nearly as racist as this racist and genocidal war.

In re Brown, what Roberts was arguing wasn't simply a question of law, but one of "judicial restraint/activism." Yes, I am quite aware that judicial restraint is simply right-wing code for any decision with which they disagree. I think judicial restraint is a red herring, as Bush v. Gore revealed, but I don't think disagreeing (even quite strongly) with a civil rights decision on that basis is racist.

What if Paul Craig Roberts were to post here? This is an anti-racist website, if it is anything. Would that be an endorsement of "the" Democratic pov? Or does this kind of theological totalism apply only to racists?

[JackRiddler]

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[JackRiddler]

18. Vegetarian German Dictator Says Sun Rises in East! n/t

[cali]

20. Nope. Not the same thing. More like if Hitler were alive and

condemning the Iraq war and bushboy. I don't have any use for the opinions of bigots with agendas.

[sanskritwarrior]

21. Agreed

he has his own agenda and it aint DU's agenda. I urge people to not nominate this for the GP.......He is a racist asshat that doesn't like the blue vision of America any better than the red vision........

[Behind the Aegis]

31. Agreed.

What next? The writings of David Duke on Iraq? Fred Phelps? David Irving? All of whom are anti-Iraq war, but it doesn't change their status as raging bigots, even if some here feel they have the "correct" position on Iraq.

[Name removed]

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[leftofthedial]

9. wow. even scum can speak the truth

when it stares them in the face

[brentspeak]

36. Paul Craig Roberts has been saying this for six years now

And why is he "scum"?

[Marie26]

49. Oh, he's scum

We need a portfolio of the right-wing/racist/crazy so people aren't inclined to fall for their rants.

[MrPrax]

66. Who Bush?...

So when are you 'usual suspects' going to stop falling for their rants and start supporting critics. The biggest racist in America is George "Do you have blacks, too?" Bush...yet the criticism by an extreme few is all about how the messenger is a 'racist'.

[Marie26]

69. Both!

Racists can be anti-Bush too, I'm not sure how one precludes the other. :shrug: Roberts is a xenophobic racist, who is also against the neo-conservatives. The "paleoconservative" wing shades into the anti-semetic, xenophobic, militia Stromfront fanatics at their extremes. (in varying degrees of craziness - Pat Buchanan, Lou Dobbs, Paul Craig Roberts & David Duke). And this faction of Republicans aren't very happy w/Bush either because of his positions on Israel & immigration. That doesn't make them progressive or a reliable ally. Consider the message & the messenger.

[northamericancitizen]

10. Sadly true... Thanks seafan

[ladjf]

12. Mr. Craig's article is the best and most succinct evaluation

of America's political demise. I hope it is read by many Americans.

[mainer]

13. We can tell our grandkids: I remember when America was ours

It's sad, isn't it, that we have seen the last of America's greatness? To think it fell so quickly -- all within the space of one administration.

[Hubert Flottz]

15. K&R

Am fast becoming a Paul Craig Roberts fan.

[teriyaki jones]

16. And all because Cheney APPOINTED HIMSELF

to be the president, for all intents and purposes. It all seems to come back to this fact somehow.

How could all of us have been so asleep at the wheel?

We all woke up way too late. If we make it past this dark period in our history, we must remember, above all else, to be ever vigilant. We can't just go back to our regularly scheduled lives, as much as we might like to. The alarm clock that is the * administration sure woke a lot of people up for the very first time.

[JackRiddler]

72. Um, no.

The Bush mob and the neocons were married quite a bit before that. In earlier incarnations it was called "Team B," "October Surprise," "The Enterprise" of Iran/Contra, or the Defense Policy Guidelines of 1992 (issued Aug. 2, 1990 coincident with the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, I believe). Then it was called PNAC. This is a racketeering organization pursuing its own power and enrichment and implementing policies on behalf of a larger class of global owners to which it belongs. Cheney's been the exec on the administration side, yes, but the beast is bigger than him.

[genie_weenie]

17. America was never ours!

America has always belonged to the Plutocratic ruling Caste. Over the course of the last 231 years efforts have been made (and have been fought ferociously by Our Glorious Leaders) to win rights, equal rights, voting rights, property rights, health care rights, workers rights, human rights, but there is no way America has ever belonged to the people...

[melody]

24. Amen, well said n/t

[Kolesar]

28. We had a post-Vietnam "Spring" in the 1970s & the Freedom of Information Act

A War Powers Act and other progress toward human values. But as the Reagan era dragged on, the horrid message of militarism and divisiveness took over, making way for the politics described by PCR.

[seafan]

30. The Lesson: Republican rule will bring wars, recession and regression of humanity.

We've seen this movie repeatedly. And the doors to the theater are locked.

But, thanks to Mr. Gore's internet(s), we will break out.

[wiggs]

22. Good summary, but no surprise to DU. Additional reading for more factors in decision

to go to war: Confessions of Economic Hit Man. We've been doing this same thing for decades to a smaller, less visible degree.

I wish more people would read articles like this in MSM.

[entanglement]

25. PCR's column shows the anger of the old,WASP elite against the Neocon upstarts

While his views on the Iraq issue are essentially sound, and his columns make for excellent reading, it must not be forgotten he is far to the right on many issues.

[bobbie]

27. Why does this writer, and many other people, ignore the real start of the regime?

It began with the murder of President Kennedy, and the Cons have been solidifying their strangle-hold ever since. And it's the same people and agencies (BFEE, CIA,...) that became the unelected Rulers.

The difference between then and now is that now the fascism is blatantly obvious--thanks to the many witnesses to the multiple stolen elections--and the internet provides good means of communication to discuss the obvious. (Thus congress' attacks on the internet "tubes.")

The coup was in 1963. We're seeing the results of over 40 years of occupation.
(Although the 'Mercan fascists tied to overthrow FDR in 1933 and failed thanks to General Smedley Butler.) We need to know the past to understand the present.

Other than that I have no quibble with the article.
;)

[indepat]

29. Sadly tens of millions of Amurikkkans are enraptured by this "dozen evil men" and the fruit they

have borne, preferring this evil dozen men's vision of America to the America we once had and the American dream most of us shared.

[Blue_Tires]

32. k+r

[brentspeak]

35. k&r

[midnight]

39. American people have lost their voice in picking candidates to

represent them. Instead a corporate machine, and corporate Supreme Court Judges are the voices that have kidnapped our microphone. You could say they have unplugged our cord. We will just have to create our own source to the system that is OUR Country-America.

[BlooInBloo]

40. Bullshit. Americans GAVE UP their fucking country...

Fucking sick of this oh-we're-so-weak-they-just-ripped-it-out-of-our-wussy-little-hands. Fucking mendacious bullshit. People VOTED for gw. People VOTED for Lieberman. It's the PEOPLE'S fault.

[Contrite]

57. Don't forget Diebold.

http://robertlindsay.blogspot.com/2007/02/they-stole-another-election.html

{snip}

This is precisely what occurred, repeatedly, in recounts sponsored by several newspapers after the election. These recounts all showed that Gore won Florida by a respectable margin, much more than the 1,000 or so votes he was said to have lost by.

Did the US media ever cover these recounts? No way! Or if they did, they buried the stories in back pages, or, even more corruptly, they wrote up stories that implied or stated that Bush had actually won the recounts, not Gore! Along with a banana republic Supreme Court and executive branch, we have ourselves our very own crooked, lying, criminal banana republic Third World media to go right along with it.

Moving along to 2002, we saw some of the first in the wave of stolen elections via the new voting machines.

There had already been a few sporadic stolen elections as the machines were introduced in the prior decade. In particular, Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, former owner of a voting machine company, won his seat in Congress in the 1990's due to a stolen election with his very own voting machines.

This was the first in a series of unprecedented historical upsets in elections counted with voting machines in which candidates who were down by 5-15 points 1-3 days before the election, or lost in exit polls, somehow inexplicably pulled out nice victories.

These sorts of wild upsets have never been seen before, and only appeared with the advent of voting machines in contested counted by machines. They are evidence of vote fraud and stolen elections, and the evidence is as clear as air.

The machines themselves were introduced as part of an elaborate conspiracy involving extreme rightwing elements in US society, especially extreme Christian fundamentalists called Dominionists.

Dominionists believe in changing America from a democracy into some sort of a "Christian Taliban" type religious dictatorship, and converting US secular law to an extreme version of Old Testament style Christian religious law - a sort of Christian Sharia if you will.

This plot started in the 1970's and some of the main players were extreme rightwingers out of Orange County in California, including Harold Ahmanson, a savings and loan tycoon from Irvine, California and a protege of R.J. Rushdoony, co-founder of the Council of National Policy (CNP), which is one of the major conservative organizations in the US.

The Dominionists have linked up with the US Empire crowd and corporate America in an unholy alliance.

(more...)

[redacted]

41. We might as well call them "Torries" because they would have supported

the British against us in the American Revolution.

[ClayZ]

42. Big K and R

[In Truth We Trust]

44. K&R For grassroots Impeachment. Demand it. Fight for it. Never give up.

[bvar22]

45. One small issue!

In this piece, Craig Roberts says:
"Having conned the UN, Congress, and the American people, the regime invaded Iraq under totally false pretenses and with totally false expectations. "

*The UN
The UN was NOT fooled by bush*. The US went to Iraq without a UN resolution.

*Congress
A majority of the Congress voted FOR the IWR, but over 150 Democrats voted NO. Bush didn't CON the Congress. Bush merely conned enough Democrats to pass the IWR. I believe that this is an important distinction. The American Public needs to KNOW that not ALL politicians are a part of the fascist regime, that some Democrats have the integrity, judgement, and courage to STAND against the political thugs. Check the votes. Many Democrats (and one Independent) have bravely stood AGAINST the the fascist takeover from the beginning.

*The American Public
Some of us were NEVER fooled by bush*/NeoCons. IIRC, before the Iraq Invasion, some polls had the country evenly split. While there were supporters of the Invasion here at DU, they were a minority, and mostly tools of the DLC.


I believe that it is important to highlight this distinction.
The NeoCons and their friendly CorpoMedia are perpetuating the meme the "everyone thought Iraq had WMD" as if this justified the Invasion.
Many, MANY doubted the WMD claims, and millions more believed that IF Iraq had some degraded stockpiles of WMD, they lack a delivery system or the will to use them against the US.

AMERICA has not been LOST.
America has been GIVEN AWAY with the help of those elected to represent us. It is important to identify those who have STOOD AGAINST the takeover, and to support them with donations and electoral support. There are several issues where our elected reps had to stand in the open and declare their true allegiances. One was the vote on the IWR!


The Democratic Party Honor Roll
These Democrats should be remembered for their principled stand against the WAR Machine.

IWR

United States Senate

In the Senate, the 21 Democrats, one Republican and one Independent courageously voted their consciences in 2002 against the War in Iraq :

Daniel Akaka (D-Hawaii)
Jeff Bingaman (D-New Mexico)
Barbara Boxer (D-California)
Robert Byrd (D-West Virginia)
Kent Conrad (D-North Dakota)
Jon Corzine (D-New Jersey)
Mark Dayton (D-Minnesota)
Dick Durbin (D-Illinois)
Russ Feingold (D-Wisconsin)
Bob Graham (D-Florida)
Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii)
Jim Jeffords (I-Vermont)
Ted Kennedy (D-Massachusetts)
Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont)
Carl Levin (D-Michigan)
Barbara Mikulski (D-Maryland)
Patty Murray (D-Washington)
Jack Reed (D-Rhode Island)
Paul Sarbanes (D-Maryland)
Debbie Stabenow (D-Michigan)
The late Paul Wellstone (D-Minnesota)
Ron Wyden (D-Oregon)

Lincoln Chaffee (R-Rhode Island)


United States House of Representatives

Six House Republicans and one independent joined 126 Democratic members of the House of Represenatives:

Neil Abercrombie (D-Hawaii)
Tom Allen (D-Maine)
Joe Baca (D-California)
Brian Baird (D-Washington DC)
John Baldacci (D-Maine, now governor of Maine)
Tammy Baldwin (D-Wisconsin)
Xavier Becerra (D-California)
Earl Blumenauer (D-Oregon)
David Bonior (D-Michigan, retired from office)
Robert Brady (D-Pennsylvania)
Corinne Brown (D-Florida)
Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio)
Lois Capps (D-California)
Michael Capuano (D-Massachusetts)
Benjamin Cardin (D-Maryland)
Julia Carson (D-Indiana)
William Clay, Jr. (D-Missouri)
Eva Clayton (D-North Carolina, retired from office)
James Clyburn (D-South Carolina)
Gary Condit (D-California, retired from office)
John Conyers, Jr. (D-Michigan)
Jerry Costello (D-Illinois)
William Coyne (D-Pennsylvania, retired from office)
Elijah Cummings (D-Maryland)
Susan Davis (D-California)
Danny Davis (D-Illinois)
Peter DeFazio (D-Oregon)
Diana DeGette (D-Colorado)
Bill Delahunt (D-Massachusetts)
Rosa DeLauro (D-Connecticut)
John Dingell (D-Michigan)
Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas)
Mike Doyle (D-Pennsylvania)
Anna Eshoo (D-California)
Lane Evans (D-Illinois)
Sam Farr (D-California)
Chaka Fattah (D-Pennsylvania)
Bob Filner (D-California)
Barney Frank (D-Massachusetts)
Charles Gonzalez (D-Texas)
Luis Gutierrez (D-Illinois)
Alice Hastings (D-Florida)
Earl Hilliard (D-Alabama, retired from office)
Maurice Hinchey (D-New York)
Ruben Hinojosa (D-Texas)
Rush Holt (D-New Jersey)
Mike Honda (D-California)
Darlene Hooley (D-Oregon)
Inslee
Jackson (Il.)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Johnson, E.B.
Jones (OH)
Kaptur
Kildee
Kilpatrick
Kleczka
Kucinich
LaFalce
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lee
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
Lofgren
Maloney (CT)
Matsui
McCarthy (MO)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McKinney
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Menendez
Millender-McDonald
Miller
Mollohan
Moran (Va)
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Owens
Pallone
Pastor
Payne
Pelosi
Price (NC)
Rahall
Rangel
Reyes
Rivers
Rodriguez
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sabo
Sanchez
Sanders
Sawyer
Schakowsky
Scott
Serrano
Slaughter
Snyder
Solis
Stark
Strickland
Stupak
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Towns
Udall (NM)
Udall (CO)
Velazquez
Visclosky
Waters
Watson
Watt
Woolsey
Wu



The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

[Stephanie]

63. Honor Roll indeed!

Thanks for that. This BS that "everyone" believed they had WMD makes me crazy, especially when it's coming from our potential Dem nominees.

[KoKo]

67. Excellent Post....Always good to see those names! n/t

[emald]

47. I understand no gives a shit, least the neocrapheads

but I've been yelling at anyone who would listen for the last five years that the current regime is criminal. It is the very thing that introduced me to DU (which, though I post not often is indeed a place of sanity for me), this seditious cabal that has reduced my rights by leaps and bounds, usurping the freedom I signed up (twice) to fight for. Maybe more people will understand, maybe more will move to stop this unbridled aggression against the constitution. I sure doubt it at this time though. Looks to me like the loopy man/child running the white house can, and intends to, rain the atomic fire on some turbaned folks. Opposition seems non-existant. Hopefully someone with some force can stop this.

[Marie26]

48. This could be a DU post

I'm sorry, beyond the obvious credibility problems this person has, I don't really see how what he is saying is particularly enlightening or new.

[ladjf]

50. I admired the piece because it was so precise.

It was a good synopsis of what has happened since the rise of the neocons.

[Major Hogwash]

51. Why aren't people marching in the streets?

Why don't they care?

[kerry-is-my-prez]

56. Becasue the MEDIA doesn't report it and they have no idea....

n/t

[Skittles]

59. the American people are too g.d. lazy to give a shit

it's all out there if they cared - but the same people who claim they have "no time for politics" have plenty of time for garbage like American Idol :puke:

[Gloria]

52. Kicked with a heavy heart....

[kerry-is-my-prez]

54. Shills at The New York Times, CNN?

I know spme of them are bad there - but who would be shills there other than Judith Miller, Lou Dobbs (sometimes), Kyra Phillips,. I don't know if I'd even call Wolf Blitzer a "shill" more of just a chickenshit and a kiss ass sometimes.

[AverageJoe]

60. How about Paula Zahn? eom

[Vidar]

55. K&R.

[Skittles]

58. I absolutely feel like I have lost my country

for me it started the day those neocon bastards stole a presidential election

[Stephanie]

61. DU has known this all along -

When will the rest of the country catch up to us?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=110&topic_id=80&mesg_id=10983

[malaise]

62. A superb article

Take them away in chains.

[cali]

64. Let me put it this way

He may hate the neocons, but the country he envisions, is not one any sane person would ever want to see.

[Alcibiades]

68. Agreed

The only advantage to it, as far as I can see, when these old Nixon/Ford conservatives (Roberts served in one of those admins, I can't remember which) is that I can forward articles like this to my Dad and say "see, it's not just us smelly hippies who oppose Bush." Assuming Roberts and his ilk have any credibility with rank and file conservatives, which I don't know. I don't envision a lasting coalition with these sorts of people, but hopefully enough of them will get angry enough that they will join us in demanding that Bush & co. serve prison time.

[havocmom]

65. hmm, seems Zibigniew is in the MIHOP tin foilers' camp

"In testimony before Congress on Feb. 1 of this year, former National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski said that he expected the regime to orchestrate a "head-on conflict with Iran and with much of the world of Islam at large." He said a plausible scenario was "a terrorist act blamed on Iran, culminating in a 'defensive' U.S.
military action against Iran." He said that the neoconservative propaganda machine was already articulating a "mythical historical narrative" for widening their war against Islam."

[Cha]

70. Down the road to another "Iraq" AND

who the hell is falling for it this time? Fucking Democrats!

I'd like to hear what Al Gore has to say on Iran.

[JackRiddler]

71. kicking...

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