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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 03:41 PM
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You KNOW its the media, right?
I mean, no matter where you are on the Great Divide, you do know its all about the media.

I've been screaming about this for years and years and I have not changed my views one bit since the time Fox came into existence.

The media is our biggest single problem. Bigger than the wars. Bigger than the economy. Bigger than the Gulf. Bigger than the presidency, politics, holding congress in the Fall, and all the other things we flap our scrawny, anemic arms about. The media does, in fact and indeed, create the reality in which we live. Fox news does it and the other media are told to follow and they dutifully do. Corporate ownership of the entirety of the formerly sound Fourth Estate has caused this country to become a brown cylinder caught in a whirlpool at the bottom of a white porcelain sea.

They can and do make us feel happy or sad or enabled or powerless. They manipulate our elections and our lives. They set our moods. Right now we are set to be fleeced to Third World status.

Unless a president is inclined to allow himself to be bought and placed in office and then revolt and take on the corporate owned media, we are doing nothing but futilely hoping for Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny to join with the Tooth Fairy and come visit us. And no. This is NOT ABOUT OBAMA. This predates him by a decade or more.

Until the media is broken apart and made to be honest, we are kidding ourselves if we think change will somehow happen. The only thing that will happen otherwise is shit. Shit Happens. Wishing is pointless.

There is no indication that this president or this Congress, any more than any of their predecessors, has any plans to go after the media any time soon. Berietbart may go down. Hell, Fox News may go down. But until there is FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE IN MEDIA OWNERSHIP, nothing else will get better.

It is all a sham. The rest is shiny objects.

If you want the wars to end, the truth needs to be told about them. About how they started. About what the REAL objectives were/are. About who benefits by what outcomes.

If you want the economy to get better, the truth needs to be told about the Too Big To Fails. The truth about the revolving door between Goldman and the Government/The Government and Goldman that transcends party and presidents. You need FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE in the economic structure of our economy. The truth will show the class war for what it is. The citizenry will see how the people they keep electing keep them metaphorically barefoot and pregnant. Keep them literally trapped in an economy that simply uses them and then fleeces them.

If you want real health CARE reform, the truth needs to be told about Big Pharma's antics in keeping us drugged and drug poor. The truth needs to be told about the insurers picking our pockets with abandon and with the tacit approval of our government.

If you want fair and honest elections, the truth about the shenanigans of the past needs to be told.

You get the point.

Tell the truth and the people ultimately come to see how they have been taken for the biggest ride in history.

And because of the stakes, the media will never go down without a fight. Never.

It is all a sham.
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 03:42 PM
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1. Yes. nt
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 03:47 PM
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2. Yep. nt
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 03:52 PM
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3. When I go to other blogs, I post this every time some yammering ig-moo
Edited on Thu Jul-22-10 03:52 PM by Kalyke
tries to say the media is liberal:

The media is not liberal:

This survey calls into question the conservative claim that journalists’ personal views are to the left of the public. On economic issues, the minority of journalists not in the "center" are more likely to identify as having a "right" orientation. When polled on specific economic policies, journalists were often to the right of public opinion. There appear to be relatively few national journalists with left views on questions like corporate power and trade—issues that probably matter more to most media owners and advertisers than social issues like gay rights and affirmative action.


http://www.fair.org/images/challenging.pdf

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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 03:53 PM
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4. Maybe you need a real government option
The US is like dead last in funding per capita for public news.

Up in Canada, they spend $1.3 billion a year ($28 bucks a head) on CBC for 1/10th the population of the US. The result is great programming (and BTW, Canada is 3rd from last in per capita funding). More on that one:
http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/article/602565

The US has pitiful levels of funding for PBS...and aren't some sources private? No wonder the result is not something that can compete with for-profit media.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 03:53 PM
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5. Dear Stinky, I really think this OP should be sent to the larger
papers..specifically the NY Times and dare you the WSJ. Great post.
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 04:10 PM
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9. Aren't they part of the media tthe OP says should/would be broken apart?
just sayin'
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 04:27 PM
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15. Yes they are, that's why I would love to see if they would publish it...LOL...n/t
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 04:54 PM
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19. It would be interesting but, "You suck! Here print this for me"
is not a winning sales pitch.

just sayin'

Maybe HuffPo?
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 05:04 PM
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20. HuffPo is widely read, yup, that's a good idea...n/t
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 04:53 PM
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18. But they're the problem aren't they? What do you think they'll do with this message?
It's amazing to me that despite this crowd here agreeing the media is the biggest problem, you all want to keep using it.

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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 04:01 PM
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6. I do know that.
If we want to do something about the media, the first thing we must do is hold them accountable when they lie.

But lying has been declared fair game -- a legitimate chess move -- according to countless posters here.

It has been argued repeatedly at this site that lying is okay and the Fairness Doctrine -- which would at least provide equal time to counter the lies -- is no good.

So, basically, we're screwed.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 04:03 PM
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7. Yes. For quite some time now, whenever I turn on the radio or TV...
...and there's a "news report," I suddenly feel like I've stumbled into an opium den.

Everyone's talking around the truth but never the truth. It's so dream-like with no vestige of truth at all...
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 04:10 PM
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8. been screaming too, stinky
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 04:11 PM
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10. Yep! K&R
n/t
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 04:12 PM
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11. K & R nt
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The_Commonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 04:17 PM
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12. The Media is the Matrix...
The first thing to do is to stop giving your eyeballs to their advertisers.
It's the money that feeds the beast, and we provide the kibble.
Luckily, in your OP, you did not mention any particular media outlets, so Google Adsense did not pick up anything to give a virtual "thumbsup" to. And I know that you are focused on the big picture. We have to stop watching them, talking about them, responding to their bullshit, and getting incensed about their the obvious obfuscations. As a start. It really is up to us.

But it's so much more entertaining to bitch about Fox News and make jokes about Sarah Palin...

Oooops!
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 04:22 PM
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13. I agree for the most part; however
the Internet is still a baby and there are still some who do not use it fully to become informed. But that will change with time.

As long as the net remains available in the form it does today, then perhaps over time (if there is any left) things will change.

More and more people are moving from the TV to the Internet, for everything.

The type of ignorance that will remain is the type that will never change, no matter what facts are placed before them.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 04:25 PM
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14. Yup. Control the media, and you control the message..
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 04:28 PM
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16.  Insanity
doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Albert Einstein


Now how long have observed this insanity?

We finally got Rachel but to me its not enough
and my time left doesn't allow it to be

Unless she has Catie Kurics seat them it doesn't matter

I see progress but the media war owners will never let
reall media happen.

We went from 800 owners of news to 5 in 20 years
and now they all compete for defense contracts.
I see where their 'truths ' lie.


Right now my pressure is on the Web........
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 04:37 PM
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17. No. The media, by definition, are between us and what's really wrong.
If you don't know that, you're mystified by the spectacle. Stop using the media and pay attention to what's really going on.
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