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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:27 PM
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AFTER 8 YEARS, Google Results for Bush's war: 2,560,000, 10 Months, Obama's War 28,700,000!
Edited on Thu Dec-03-09 09:39 PM by FrenchieCat
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bigjohn16 Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:28 PM
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1. 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan. It's now President Obama's war. nt
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:32 PM
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3. The media says so,
so it must be.

I still find it quite fucking fucked up.....

A President starts two wars,
Congress fucking authorizes both of them,
(including St. Kucinich)
and they are named after the guy that will end them.

But then, this is America,
so I wouldn't expect any less.

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bigjohn16 Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:33 PM
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5. President Obama doesn't get to dig the Afghanistan hole deeper...
and stay clean at the same time. Sorry.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:36 PM
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7. Right.
He doesn't get to end two fucked up wars that lasted 8 years....
before he got there the way that he determines.

Check.


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bigjohn16 Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:40 PM
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8. People are still dying in the wars President Obama "ended."
Edited on Thu Dec-03-09 09:41 PM by bigjohn16
The draw down in Iraq is a good thing but it's not "ended" yet. The escalation of Afghanistan is a mistake that will be a bloody stain on his Presidency.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:12 PM
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13. Don't forget that "we"voted most of the fuckers who did this to us back into office.
Edited on Thu Dec-03-09 10:13 PM by patrice
and many of us still go to their goddamn churches, the ones that were going to overthrow Roe v. Wade by voting in a messianic End-Timer and his buddies TWICE.

This is OUR War. We just want to blame it on President Obama.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:29 PM
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17. Yep....
Well I have the pleasure of being in Barbara Lee's district
and voted for her multiple times....
And yes, like you, I don't support war,
which is why I support President OBama
getting us the hell out of there,
in the best way out of all of the bad choices
possible.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:50 PM
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24. The time for a quick unconditional withdrawal is long, long past and pretending that what I want
is the measure of all things is dysfunctional, even if what I want really is right and best. We are a collective, like it or not, There ARE other Americans, some of whom supported these wars and are now fed up and want out. AND imagine how that seems to the rest of the World. Americans think they can WANT something like this and then just change their minds when they have had enough??? The SHAME of it is unbearable.

Don't get me wrong. I find the impending further enrichment of the Privateers, War Profiteers, and Mercenaries disgusting to the max. The deaths of more innocent foreigners just as un-acceptable as the death of the very first one. The only thing I'm running on at this point is that our military did VOLUNTEER and they did raised their hands and swore not to ask WHY/HOW/WHAT and maybe, just maybe with the timeline in place SOMETHING helpful to the Afghans will come out of this.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:48 PM
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bigjohn16 Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:51 PM
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11. Karl is for the troop increase. That's how you can tell us apart.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:31 PM
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18. Karl is for endless war without exit......
But he hates President Obama too.
Considers him a foe.
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bigjohn16 Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:35 PM
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20. I consider him a foe on this issue and many other. nt
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:38 PM
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21. Figured we'd find something in common at some point.
Good!
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:30 PM
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2. It seems the leftbaggers hate Obama more than they ever hated Bush.
:shrug:

Thanks for the facts.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:49 PM
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10. "leftbaggers" lol
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:33 PM
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4. Good stuff. Obama brought sanity to the country
He just, eh, forgot to partake in it himself. Its great news that the country is now concerned with war. Its a testement to the power of the Democratic party that they can change minds so quickly
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:35 PM
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6. It's a testament to a fucked up country.....
Edited on Thu Dec-03-09 09:40 PM by FrenchieCat
that folks and the media liked licking bushes ass way more.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:28 PM
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16. Yeah, someone needs to convince me that the number of people raising hell about
PO's decision is equal to the number of people raising hell about the wars in, say, March of 2007 (election years don't count) and that if there is an increase, that is due to accretions natural to the anti-War movement.


BTW, I don't approve of the president's decision, but I do agree with it primarily for one reason, the timeline.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:10 PM
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12. Some extrapolation of the data needs to be made.
First, the population of the world at the beginning of Bush's term is less than now.

Second, the number of internet users at the beginning of Bush's term is substantially less than now.

Third, Google's impact on the internet at the beginning of Bush's term is substantially less than now.

Fourth, there are substantially more activists willing to make more of an effort than at the beginning of Bush's term.

Fifth, more people were open to sending troops to Afghanistan and Iraq because of the time proximity of 9/11 then they are now.

Sixth, fewer people believe there was justification for war under Bush.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:12 PM
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14. 8 years vs. 10 months? 20 million more?
Edited on Thu Dec-03-09 10:13 PM by FrenchieCat
That's some "change"!
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:19 PM
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15. That is not an issue to me
as the goal is to end the war, not to obsess over defending some elected official's honor.

Right now, Obama's the one who is opting not to withdraw the troops, so I am fine with all the focus being on Obama not withdrawing them.

If we had a time machine and were going to relive 2004, I might feel differently.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:32 PM
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19. Time Machine?
What does that even mean?

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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:41 PM
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22. It's a mythical machine
that lets you go back in time.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:42 PM
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23. Oooh Boy.
What About UFOs? You like those too? :shrug:
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 11:25 PM
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25. It's called politics.
Any amateur at it could tell you that was going to happen.

You get four years. The last two are spent campaigning for the next election. The second is spent setting up the campaign. Anything you want to change you do immediately or it doesn't get done. You can't blame the mess on your predecessor after one year. Not fair, but that is how it works. We diddled away the first year trying to get the republicans to like us. Now it's our war and our economy. Not fair, but that is how it happens.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 12:52 AM
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26. About google, and time:
Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 01:26 AM by boppers
Old news articles that are now 404 get dropped.
Old blog posts that are now 404 get dropped.
Sites that turned out to be news-spammers get dropped.
Sites that turned out to be wiki-spammers get dropped.
Sites that turned out to be phrase-spammers get dropped.
(etc.)

(The below were run with filter=1, for google savvy folks who understand the additional/supplemental/"duplicate content" filters)

Let's try an exact phrase match:
Results 1 - 10 of about 103,000 for "Bush's War"
Results 1 - 10 of about 3,580,000 for "Obama's War"

Looks to be a hot topic these days, with lots of fresh, relevant, pages mentioning the phrase.

So, let's expand the data set, with a different term, shall we?
Results 1 - 10 of about 55,500 for "Bush's Dog"
Results 1 - 10 of about 48,500 for "Obama's Dog"

Apparently, Bush's canine pets still "count" for slightly more pages, if counting SERP results matters... and that's *with* phrase quotes.

Without the phrase quotes, though, like your examples?
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,410,000 for Bush's Dog
Results 1 - 10 of about 16,300,000 for Obama's Dog

Yes, it's true, it's Obama's "war". And "dog".


edit: filter=1, not zero
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 01:33 AM
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27. There is more expansion of our military footprint
than Iraq and Afghanistan.

Examples include the new Africom and the $6 billion invested in Camp Lemonier in Djibouti (Horn of Africa area; seven new military bases in Columbia (adjacent to the Venezuelan state of Zulia that is the richest oil patch in the western hemisphere and critical in WWII); and (if one is not incredibly naive) complicit in the coup in Honduras.

Read the 2000 PNAC plan. The strategy is more than fossil fuels. The Pentagon is on course but not in time line nor initial surety of success.

The strategy breeds terrorism (asymmetric war against an aggressor).

I donated $ to and voted for POTUS Obama in the primary and election hoping for an transformational FDR-like administration.

I am anti-war especially war waged by our own standards as illegitimate and war crimes.

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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 01:51 AM
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28. It's a conspiracy I tells ya!!!1!
:rofl:
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