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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,972 posts)
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 03:08 PM Sep 2017

Anyone else notice the fake DU sites?

They usually have a similar URL to DU. Seems when you search for an article on Democratic Underground some of these come up.

I've clicked on some of these sites in the search results and got a warning from my anti-virus software that the site is not safe.

Just a word of caution.

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Anyone else notice the fake DU sites? (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2017 OP
Similar in what way to DU's URL? MineralMan Sep 2017 #1
The internal DU Google search brings this up Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2017 #2
If they have words ahead of democraticunderground.com MineralMan Sep 2017 #3
Here's one where I get the warning Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2017 #20
Yeah, that's an https issue. MineralMan Sep 2017 #21
Those are aliases for DU servers muriel_volestrangler Sep 2017 #11
Take a look at this. It's exactly the same as DU except with a "." at the RKP5637 Sep 2017 #4
Where did you encounter that? MineralMan Sep 2017 #6
Someone had reported it as an error on DU. My login app wisely blocks it. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2017 #8
Hmm....it looks normal to me, except that MineralMan Sep 2017 #9
It could be a test site for DU. Also, could be a nefarious way for someone to collect RKP5637 Sep 2017 #13
Since it's exactly the same, I suspect that is just a side-effect of security muriel_volestrangler Sep 2017 #10
Interesting, thanks!!! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2017 #14
Yes, I think you're correct on that. MineralMan Sep 2017 #15
There is an implied . at the end of all domains like that. xor Sep 2017 #17
Thanks!!! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2017 #18
Yes, see #4. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2017 #5
They're not fake DU...it's the archives. countryjake Sep 2017 #7
See #11 - replace sync with www and it'll work without a problem (nt) muriel_volestrangler Sep 2017 #12
Hey, thanky much! Your solution works like a charm! countryjake Sep 2017 #16
I tried to log in a DU site today, noticed that I was logged out MrScorpio Sep 2017 #19

MineralMan

(146,298 posts)
1. Similar in what way to DU's URL?
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 03:13 PM
Sep 2017

Do they not have democraticunderground.com in the URL?

Are you searching directly on Google or using the internal DU Google search?

A little more information would be useful.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,972 posts)
2. The internal DU Google search brings this up
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 03:16 PM
Sep 2017

and yes they have democraticunderground.com plus some additional stuff.

MineralMan

(146,298 posts)
3. If they have words ahead of democraticunderground.com
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 03:18 PM
Sep 2017

they're probably links to servers, but are still DU links. The warning you got may come from some ad on that page or something like that. It's probably not really an issue.

URLs like upload.democraticunderground.com are normal.

MineralMan

(146,298 posts)
21. Yeah, that's an https issue.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 02:09 PM
Sep 2017

I think it's because it's an older page and there's a conflict between http: and https:

This has been happening for a while. It's nothing to worry about and has been discussed in ATA.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,314 posts)
11. Those are aliases for DU servers
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 03:45 PM
Sep 2017

Google happens to have recorded those aliases for many pages. Now that DU has started using 'https://', those that were recorded before the switch with a name other than "www" can give a security warning. Just replace that word ("betterment" is one, I think) with "www" and it'll work.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
4. Take a look at this. It's exactly the same as DU except with a "." at the
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 03:38 PM
Sep 2017

end and an un-activated login. I reported it to "ask the Admins." but never heard back.

https://www.democraticunderground.com.

MineralMan

(146,298 posts)
9. Hmm....it looks normal to me, except that
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 03:42 PM
Sep 2017

I'm not logged in and there are ads. It still looks like DU, though. I don't know.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
13. It could be a test site for DU. Also, could be a nefarious way for someone to collect
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 03:48 PM
Sep 2017

DU logins, I guess.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,314 posts)
10. Since it's exactly the same, I suspect that is just a side-effect of security
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 03:43 PM
Sep 2017

Your (and my) browser doesn't recognise it as democraticunderground.com, so it can't give the site the cookie necessary to say "already logged in", but the trailing '.' doesn't mean anything in a URL, so it's stripped before use and thus goes to the true democraticunderground.com .

MineralMan

(146,298 posts)
15. Yes, I think you're correct on that.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 03:51 PM
Sep 2017

I think the original poster was talking about stuff like archive, etc. ahead of democraticunderground.com. That stuff often shows up in Google searches made with the search box on DU.

the .com. thing seems like a different question that the OP was asking, and I think you've interpreted it correctly. DU doesn't load the cookie, so you aren't logged in.

xor

(1,204 posts)
17. There is an implied . at the end of all domains like that.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 04:49 PM
Sep 2017

We just don't usually deal with it on our everyday usage.

DU also has several other servers (or at least subdomains. I haven't checked if they point to different servers) One is elections.democraticunderground.com. There is also metamorphosis and a few others I can't recall off the top of my head. Either way, those are all under DU's control.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
7. They're not fake DU...it's the archives.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 03:40 PM
Sep 2017

If you've been searching here for articles that were posted before the most recent DU upgrade, they'll normally contain such words as metamorphosis or sync and a few other odd words, in the URL.

Elad has told us before that it's simply the way he has configured the access to the archives.

Getting the "Unsafe" warnings is something fairly new happening that I'm not sure the owners of this site even know about. There have been questions asked about it in the Ask the Administrators forum but so far, not enough follow-up included for Skinner to understand what the problem is.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
16. Hey, thanky much! Your solution works like a charm!
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 04:19 PM
Sep 2017

You should make a thread in Skinner's help forum with that nifty answer to the problem so that other DUers might quit wondering; I looked around over in Ask the Administrators a minute ago and there are several questions relating to this exact issue, but the people posing the questions never responded back to Skinner when he requested more info.

Actually, I had been wondering if it was just a nicer way for them to clean up some of the infighting and various circular firing squads we're experiencing here now by effectively blocking the frenzied digging into other DUers long-past statements.

Your explanation makes much more sense, ha! Thanks again!

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
19. I tried to log in a DU site today, noticed that I was logged out
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 05:07 PM
Sep 2017

I put in my login and nothing happened.

So I went to the URL in my favorites and found out that I was already logged in.

I promptly changed my password. I suggest that everyone do the same.

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