We may have a pile of shit for a so-called "pResident," but we have a TERRIFIC,

brilliant, loving, gentle-hearted, and enlightened Pope. At least there's that.

I love Pope Francis! Haven't felt this kind of affection for the Pontiff since Pope John XXIII's era.

Flake could put his votes where his mouth is if he wanted to pack a punch.

He waxed eloquent here, and on the floor of the Senate on Tuesday. But he nevertheless turned around and rubber-stamped everything on the trump agenda.

Indeed. And what does it say about the sad state of affairs we're all stuck in, now,

that many of us find ourselves looking back on bush1 and/or bush2 with some measure of fondness?

I was convinced that dubya would rank 44th on the list of 44 Presidents, dead last on a "who was the best President?" list. But then came trump. And now dubya isn't all the way down at the bottom of the heap anymore. trump is such a shit-show that he actually makes dubya look better. That's pretty doggone pathetic.

I LOVE Ted Lieu!!!

He's a bright, sparkling light! And a breath of fresh air.

AND a cause for at least some hope.

Wish we could clone him.

EXCELLENT point.

"All over" like what? Cable news? The old-time "Big Three" (ABC, CBS, NBC)? Breitbart and Drudge? Pox Noise? Alex Jones?

The OP strongly suggests that quite a few voters who fell for trump have only a surface skimming of "news" input. Like what? Remember when Katie Couric nailed Sarah Palin on that? (Paraphrasing here) "What kinds of newspapers and magazines do you read?" And remember how Palin attempted to glide through that question by saying she read a lot of them. But when Couric pressed her with "like what?", she couldn't name a single one. New York Times? Washington Post? Time magazine? Vogue magazine? MAD magazine? How 'bout ANY of the Alaska papers, since after all, she was, at the time. Alaska's sitting governor? I merely googled:

Daily newspapers (currently published)
Alaska Daily News – King Salmon.
Alaska Dispatch News – Anchorage.
Daily Sitka Sentinel – Sitka.
Fairbanks Daily News-Miner – Fairbanks.
Juneau Empire – Juneau.
Ketchikan Daily News – Ketchikan.
Kodiak Daily Mirror – Kodiak.
Peninsula Clarion – Kenai.

NOTHING. She had NOTHING. Which strongly suggests that she didn't read anything. Anybody else would at least come up with SOMETHING. Or a name of some anchor person, or some identifying detail.

Sounds like the fellow in the OP who says "I get my news from all over" probably means he gets his "news" from the Morning Zoo show on the radio while driving to work, or from what he hears through the rumor mill via the neighbors over the back fence or at the local watering hole or the Saturday night poker game with the guys.

byronius, you didn't just have a hopefully-enlightening conversation with an ill-informed person, you just performed a public service!

Welcome to DU, The Mouth!

You made me think of a quote that grabbed me during the bush/cheney years. Attributed to kkkarl rove. "Too much education is not necessarily a good thing."

I've seen studies which indicated that the more educated a person is, the more likely he or she is to gravitate toward the liberal point of view.

LOVE this quote! A keeper!

And YES Definitely! Bannon DOES look like a bag of trash. And he does look like he should be thrown out. Garbage to garbage. Seems fitting.

Nice little detail there!

Indeed. Jeb actually called it.

Remember how he predicted that trump would be “the Chaos President” if he was allowed to go all the way?

I’m stunned to realize that I’m actually agreeing with anything Bush. Including his dry drunk older brother (as of that latest speech dubya recently delivered).

The world truly has turned upside down.

Welcome to DU, courtjester!

They're the IGMFU Party, for sure. IGMFU stands for "I Got Mine, F-U". All they want to do is rob you and give it to the rich, while assuring you over and over again that if you just keep on voting republi-CON, you, too, will be rich someday. One thing they DON'T want to do is help you. Because that costs too much and government shouldn't be bothered with expensive activities like that. They honestly believe that it isn't government's job to help people. Only to make war.