Agreed. GREAT point you make, Tarheel_Dem.

Hecklers often shit on their own causes when they act out. I've got to admit that I was disturbed by Medea Benjamin's ONGOING heckling of President Obama. It's one thing when you blurt something out. But when you go on and on and on and on and on - like that breitbart asshole did during Anthony Weiner's press conference when (if memory serves) he was conceding and stepping down, it starts to make THEM look bad and takes the attention away from the message they were pushing. That bothered me a lot with Medea, BUT, when I saw the photos of her and another Code Pink member posing and smiling with their big handmade valentine to rand paul of all people (rand fucking paul????????) I just lost it. And Code Pink lost my support. I unsubscribed from their emails and I don't want to hear anything more from them for awhile. They just shat on their own cause.

rand fucking paul???????? They're sending valentines to rand fucking paul???????? Are they NUTS?????? I posted here about it recently - that if Medea Benjamin and friends think rand paul is ANY friend of theirs, they're more deluded than the Pox News audience.

And I'm sorry, but Medea Benjamin is no novice. She's been around long enough to know who the real enemy is.

Almost all of our animals follow us into the bathroom, especially me.

I'm the "food god" most of the time (I'm the main one who feeds them and cleans up after them). Husband and I have taken to calling the commode "the petting seat" because that's what they come in to do: get petted.

Love Otis! He's a keeper, for sure! Congratulations! A thread here by DUer DonRedwood talked about how wonderful their new kitty is and what a lovely difference he's made in their lives - even while so small, and deaf.

Check it out! It's as dear as can be!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022932780

Good.

This is VERY good news. Let them cling to their loser policies long enough to start facing imminent extinction.

Dang! Another winner, SCE! Love all these!

WOW! Stunning! Thanks for posting this, rug!

Magnificent!!!!!

Welcome to DU Skeeter Barnes!

Glad you're here! I wouldn't take anything for our four cats and dog. Our dog is big, gentle, loving, and wonderful just like Moose. We got her from the pound, one day after the pound people had to terminate her pregnancy. We've often wondered if she thinks those cats are her puppies.

This is a WUNNNNNderful thread! Thanks, DonRedwood!

You just made a most basic point, Warpy -

This:

"They never consider that the women might have something to say about that, "consent" is not something they have ever recognized as important."

What a woman might have to say about something, anything, has been such a non-issue for so long. I mean - seems like we're talking thousands of years. I don't know. But I've found it something that I thought about a lot, even from grade school times. I found myself thinking - "how can you make pronouncements like that? You're not a woman, how on earth could you possibly know?" What did megyn kelly even get pissed off enough to say? "Who died and made you the god of science"? (Or some such thing. Guess that one was even too much for megyn kelly.) Mainly it was for the early exposures outside my nuclear family, including doctors and of course the visiting priest who came to our school once a week to conduct the catechism class - and the other priests in the parish, too.

Women have been regarded as property - to be bought, sold, traded, and owned, or lent out maybe - for as far back as womankind can remember. I sometimes find, in my own mind, that the issues of the woman supersede pretty much all other social and social-justice issues. Mainly because there are women in EVERY demographic imaginable. There are black women. There are Latinas. There are Asian women. There are white women. There are indigenous tribal women. There are old women. There are young women. There are gay women. There are disabled women. There are warrior women. There are business women. There are rich women. There are poor women - and how! Seems to me that ALL issues eventually settle down onto one shared foundation: that involving and directly affecting the female of the human species.

And maybe we need to assert that more, and help integrate that reality into the general (and male-dominated mindset). I don't know. Just rambling, really. But one thing I think is certain: a large part of society is so unaccustomed to having to include and accommodate the female view - not just in Madison Avenue matters but in policy matters. It reminds me of a statement one of the women US Senators made not terribly long ago. I forget who said this but the statement was made that if women held a majority in the Senate (maybe Congress in general), many of the big problems we face would be solved. Because women would be interested in getting something accomplished and some problems solved rather than putting total emphasis on political posturing. We don't have that majority yet, and I'm sure there will be whole population segments that resist it like crazy, but I'm thinking that it's the way we're headed. And I hope so. 'Cause I hate the idea of being held back for such an arbitrary assumption.

Welcome to DU, Android3.14!

Glad you're here!

This strikes me as one of those cases in which the broken clock is still correct, twice a day. Either that or, things got too male-chauvinist-piggish even for Miss Faux News.

Excellent point, SemperEadem. If it really mattered to her, she wouldn't be part of that network.

I saw eleven minutes of it. Significantly, the image switched from close-ups of her, with her two patronizing, sexist guests, to long shots of the whole studio - MAKING SURE to center upon her bare legs, easily visible under the minimal desk, and showcased from a nicely short skirt and sexy shoes. They did that a couple of times - wide shot of the set, legs dead center. No reason for it, at all, other than to establish that it was time to notice the fetching female anchor has legs, too.

I remember the follow up coverage to her anchoring on Election Night, and how she marched down the hall from the news set to check out what kkkarl rove was denying was happening (as in, the numbers were going for Obama). And the off-camera direction was to make sure the camera pulled back to get a full-length shot of megyn coming down the hall, so everyone could see her legs as she approached.

Hey, I like seeing ads like this. Isn't the idea to reflect reality?

Isn't the idea to appeal to the largest possible consumer pool? Isn't the idea to produce ads to which ANYBODY can relate, and in which ANYBODY can see themselves? The better to resonate with the product and imaging being sold, so you wind up selling MORE, no?

It's very annoying that this stirs up shit. There are MANY American families that aren't the cookie-cutter white daddy/white mommy/white kids version. MANY. And many with one parent. And many with a combination of elders contributing. Forcryingoutloud, we have a President like that.

And many with same-sex parents, too. And unfortunately JC Penney has taken shit for its ads that feature families like that as well.

So frustrating, and disappointing, too. WHY is this still such an issue? This is the 21st Century, for Heaven's sake.