I think there will be serious ramifications to deal with, in attitudes, because of this particular election. The "he got beaten by a girl" meme will be hard to accept in some quarters. I suspect it'll be even harder to accept than "he got beaten by a black guy."

Brace for it. You think the changing reality force-fed to some communities by the fact of an honest-to-goodness African American President was an inconvenient truth? Just wait til there's a woman President. I fear this will trigger IMMENSE obstinacy, bitterness, and resentment, and probably a fair amount of acting out from the "that's not how it's SUPPOSED to be..." crowd. After all, "everybody knows" Presidents have always been white men. And isn't that the way things are "supposed to be"?

Sounds like the title of a limbaugh book. He actually wrote one entitled "The Way Things Ought To Be" back when he was first becoming a big radio star. I can't ever forget the caller I heard, while having the misfortune of having to listen to part of his show one day. The caller, whose voice sounded like he was a middle-aged white man, complained that this country started going off on the wrong track when women won the right to vote. Seriously. That attitude didn't die with the dinosaurs. There's a HUGE contingent out there that wants things back the way it's assumed things were in the 50's.

I'm so ashamed of the shit-show put on to block everything President Obama tried to do - the utterly pig-headed obstruction - MAN what sore losers!

When Barack Obama was elected in 2008, there was that one "brief shining moment" when they showed the crowds in Chicago, weeping for joy, so completely and deliriously flabbergasted that we had actually lived to see this! We actually DID this! We WITNESSED it! We finally got over this obstacle! We've got over ourselves and that old shit. We've finally grown up! Maybe, just maybe, we've moved on from that garbage. Maybe we finally turned the page. I had such hope. MAN-oh-MAN was I wrong! I've found it shameful and embarrassing, the terrible way he's been treated and disrespected. And yes, threatened. The Secret Service did report that threats against him increased by some 400% over the rate against the previous President. Infuriating!

And yeah, we WILL see how misogynous America is, if a woman is elected. I'd say bet on it. But it's something we have to do anyway, despite the misbehavior and idiocy that it will provoke. We have to break through those last barricades. So that EVERYBODY in America can see themselves in the Oval Office. Including all of our daughters.

Didn't want to believe it but that was my first thought. Amazing how that little tidbit didn't get out til now.

Curious. I hope it doesn't mean what I think it does.

I saw another comment here that joked - tell 'em to read an 800-page report. That'll lose the GOP base in about five minutes.

I hope this gives you and your family some level of closure.

Cold comfort, I know.