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wonkwest

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169. Your thought is good in theory

Sat May 5, 2018, 01:49 PM

May 2018

(I'm going to reference my own status a lot in getting my point across)

No one is going to suddenly be racist because Wypipo. But it will reinforce a predilection. If a white person is coming around, making steps, trying to be a better person, and then they see, "We just hate white people," it's very counterproductive. It turns future allies off.

My family is uber Catholic. I came out, I wrestled with them. Today, everything is fine. My parents are like, "Are you bringing your boyfriend with you?" in a positive way when I travel to see them.

What I don't do is make fun of them for being Catholic. I don't denigrate them. I don't tell them how wrong they are. I tell them, "This is who I am, this is my life, and this is my happiness." That's a much smoother road.

Wypipo is adversarial. If you want a fight, you'll get a fight. I just don't want a fight. There are better ways. That's where I'm coming from.

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'Wypipo' Explained [View all] sheshe2 May 2018 OP

Yes, the power imbalance means it isn't the same as using anti-black racist terms enki23 May 2018 #1

"greater fraction"???? heaven05 May 2018 #219

What is the goal of the purveyors of this tactic and how will it work out? Cary May 2018 #227

It certainly does. And you're right. nt 7962 May 2018 #278

White people shenanigans ProudLib72 May 2018 #2

His rationalization for a race based pejorative is weak. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #3

Oh, you mean whites? sheshe2 May 2018 #4

Well said. nt Atticus May 2018 #6

You aren't making the case that "wypipo" isn't a pejorative Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #8

Is that truly a "case" that needs to be made? George II May 2018 #12

I do not understand Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #16

I think they are mostly saying what everybody else has told them nolabels May 2018 #53

I highly recommend the book to others. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #117

I bet heaven05 May 2018 #224

Kudos for "logomachy". n/t sl8 May 2018 #102

It is a great word Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #115

Failed in making the case heaven05 May 2018 #223

+++ sheshe2 May 2018 #272

Exactly. ismnotwasm May 2018 #11

You've done it now, sheshe ProudLib72 May 2018 #26

Sort of ironic for someone with a Hillary Clinton avatar photo to post an article by this person oberliner May 2018 #47

Oops. Tipperary May 2018 #62

I don't get how some people who bash Democrats are OK to post oberliner May 2018 #71

Because people don't take time to research who they're praising RhodeIslandOne May 2018 #72

Bingo. Tipperary May 2018 #74

but this heaven05 May 2018 #228

You mean like people who bashed Al Franken Drahthaardogs May 2018 #175

Yes, exactly oberliner May 2018 #210

Okay some black people heaven05 May 2018 #226

And they can all get bent. n/m RhodeIslandOne May 2018 #265

still grasping heaven05 May 2018 #225

This...all of this!! Docreed2003 May 2018 #85

As a sidenote BumRushDaShow May 2018 #100

Honestly... Docreed2003 May 2018 #106

Believe it or not BumRushDaShow May 2018 #110

++++ nt heaven05 May 2018 #229

++ nt heaven05 May 2018 #221

We? I was never a slave owner. I never lynched anyone, I never raped anyone, I never beat anyone. wasupaloopa May 2018 #253

You didn't fight in the Revolution or know any presidents, but probably celebrate the 4th of July EffieBlack May 2018 #262

This! sheshe2 May 2018 #273

Agree. "Power imbalance" doesn't make it different. Beartracks May 2018 #5

See post 4 sheshe2 May 2018 #7

I did. Beartracks May 2018 #10

I agree. phylny May 2018 #63

Oh Goombas is fine here on DU Drahthaardogs May 2018 #177

"hostile and accusatory" heaven05 May 2018 #220

This is bigoted wonkwest May 2018 #9

not a slur heaven05 May 2018 #230

Are you white? wonkwest May 2018 #281

some white people heaven05 Jun 2018 #282

Just stop wonkwest Jun 2018 #283

no, I won't heaven05 Jun 2018 #284

Yet you'll complain wonkwest Jun 2018 #285

Thank you. Duppers May 2018 #280

The white tears in this thread. WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #13

No tears just shaking head at the blatant hypocrisy Devil Child May 2018 #15

It's hypocritical for an oppressed population to coin humorous terms to describe their oppressors? WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #21

Non POC privilege rears it's ugly head. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #152

I'm Latino and yes, it is. John Fante May 2018 #179

Why? WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #183

I do hope you are not calling me a hypocrite, Devil Child. sheshe2 May 2018 #170

Is that not permitted? dumbcat May 2018 #186

This reminds me of the phrase "liberal tears" ... Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #17

It's probably from the use of the word "tears" in each example. WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #20

Now see, if anyone dares express a negative opinion to this ridiculous and derogatory term, Tipperary May 2018 #73

Lmmfao... Docreed2003 May 2018 #83

Hey, Dorcreed. sheshe2 May 2018 #172

Hey sheshe!!! Docreed2003 May 2018 #203

Kudos to your wife, Docreed. sheshe2 May 2018 #204

Yeah...well Docreed2003 May 2018 #205

Ummmhmmm. sheshe2 May 2018 #274

Racist garbage? Absolutely, DO TELL! Devil Child May 2018 #14

Oh for Gods sake ismnotwasm May 2018 #18

Tell it, ism. sheshe2 May 2018 #174

"Switch white to anything else and there would be almost universal scorn and derision for such a WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #19

Partially agree Devil Child May 2018 #22

. WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #23

Here you go Devil Child May 2018 #24

Switch white to anything else and it would make no sense unless we switched EVERYTHING EffieBlack May 2018 #42

Yes! Perfectly said. WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #111

Damm! you're good. jrthin May 2018 #119

Yes betsuni May 2018 #121

If you switch EVERYTHING you wont have to worry about quibbling over words or speech Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #155

Now come on, Eliot. Be fair. You know all these things happen Hortensis May 2018 #200

+1 gollygee May 2018 #168

This sheshe2 May 2018 #176

I wonder what the Venn diagram is? Nevernose May 2018 #25

Or maybe some people are true to their liberal beliefs wonkwest May 2018 #30

True liberals understand the imbalance of power and control in America EffieBlack May 2018 #43

Shhhhh... white people can't take a joke! Docreed2003 May 2018 #87

I do understand that wonkwest May 2018 #165

Any white person who stops being an ally because Harriot or someone on DU said "Wypipo" EffieBlack May 2018 #166

Your thought is good in theory wonkwest May 2018 #169

It's not any black person's responsibility to tiptoe around making sure not to offend the tender EffieBlack May 2018 #173

no it isn't heaven05 May 2018 #234

It would look like one solid circle kcr May 2018 #108

Blapipo TCJ70 May 2018 #27

How many do you know use the phonetic term "blopipo"? Even one? George II May 2018 #31

Until today I'd never seen "wypipo" anywhere. TCJ70 May 2018 #37

It's NOT heaven05 May 2018 #236

Respelling a phrase (in this case "white people") and attaching all sorts of negatives to it is... TCJ70 May 2018 #249

"Anybody comfortable with this?" WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #33

What is the purpose of "wypipo"? TCJ70 May 2018 #36

"What is the purpose of 'wypipo'?" WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #38

What a bunch of bullshit. TCJ70 May 2018 #39

It's used as an adjective/adverb BumRushDaShow May 2018 #112

thou protesteth too much heaven05 May 2018 #237

So you're saying all white people are wypipo? TCJ70 May 2018 #250

wypipo heaven05 May 2018 #252

Perfect EffieBlack May 2018 #44

"As always, if it doesn't apply to you, it doesn't apply to you" - there's the problem muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #66

it's a descriptive word heaven05 May 2018 #239

Whataboutism. n/t phylny May 2018 #270

++ nt heaven05 May 2018 #238

That's partly true. Igel May 2018 #55

all blapipo ARE black people heaven05 May 2018 #235

out of respect, you should say afracamericapipo Bucky May 2018 #241

LOL!!!! heaven05 May 2018 #243

okay Bucky May 2018 #244

oh, thank you heaven05 May 2018 #247

Great Article nini May 2018 #28

Yup. ismnotwasm May 2018 #32

I wonder what this author would say about the man whose photo is your avatar oberliner May 2018 #48

So now you're defending the honor of the Clintons. betsuni May 2018 #56

Always oberliner May 2018 #67

Right! brer cat May 2018 #76

I guess all is forgiven. betsuni May 2018 #81

He can't be trusted on anything because DID YOU SEE WHAT HE SAID ABOUT THE CLINTONS?!?! EffieBlack May 2018 #89

You're OK with him not voting for Hillary in the 2016 general election? muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #91

I don"t agree with him on that but that doesn't mean that nothing he has to say has any meaning EffieBlack May 2018 #94

Okay let's do the election again heaven05 May 2018 #245

How many? None, openly. That was why admin made everyone agree to support her. muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #248

I think it heaven05 May 2018 #251

It is meant as a pejorative; that's what the article in the OP is about muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #259

and heaven05 May 2018 #264

Ding ding ding! sheshe2 May 2018 #184

This message was self-deleted by its author muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #70

I read, enjoyed, and learned from William Safire's Sunday NYT column lapucelle May 2018 #211

I loved Safire's "On Language" column, like you I read it every week in the NYT Sunday Magazine. George II May 2018 #212

I didn't know that George. lapucelle May 2018 #213

Yes, he was the speech writer for both Nixon and Agnew. Even though he was a conservative... George II May 2018 #214

Posts by RW authors generally get alerted on and removed here oberliner May 2018 #216

No right wing author posted here; nor did any poster agree with any right wing political content. lapucelle May 2018 #217

If previous criticism of a Hillary Clinton was a bar to being cited on DU, this would be a very EffieBlack May 2018 #222

K&R Gothmog May 2018 #29

Sorry. I don't give credence to the opinions of anti-Democratic activists Steven Maurer May 2018 #34

But of course RhodeIslandOne May 2018 #40

Also the author of: "Why I Could Never Vote For Hillary Clinton" oberliner May 2018 #49

I object to the implication that loving animals more than people is wrong. Coventina May 2018 #35

Same here. I guess that makes us disgusting racists, huh? Tipperary May 2018 #96

Ironic. given it is the empathetic person who will act to change things, address injustices AND hlthe2b May 2018 #123

Me too Raine May 2018 #202

Ugly, divisive, ignorant, unproductive, racist crap that should have no place in this site. 50 Shades Of Blue May 2018 #41

Well said oberliner May 2018 #51

Clearly, there needs to be a corollary to this discussion that touches on white fragility...Why Whit MrScorpio May 2018 #45

From the author of: "Why I Could Never Vote For Hillary Clinton" oberliner May 2018 #46

Take out a few of his race based complaints.... RhodeIslandOne May 2018 #52

Don't really know who that is oberliner May 2018 #68

Shapiro is a former Brietfart drone RhodeIslandOne May 2018 #75

I know someone.. sheshe2 May 2018 #188

I know some people who wrote in "Bernie Sanders" in the last general election oberliner May 2018 #209

Rec'd and kick'd lunatica May 2018 #50

You should NOT have had to post this, sheshe2. raven mad May 2018 #54

Thank you, raven mad. sheshe2 May 2018 #189

my mom probably would have gone nuts if she knew the places i went for estate sales. pansypoo53219 May 2018 #57

The thing about animals reminds me of what Gordon Gekko says in "Wall Street": betsuni May 2018 #58

Yep. sheshe2 May 2018 #190

... betsuni May 2018 #207

You too! sheshe2 May 2018 #208

Rubbish. GeorgeGist May 2018 #59

Yes, and I just spent some time learning about this person the op quoted. Tipperary May 2018 #65

Did you now. sheshe2 May 2018 #275

Sounds an awful lot like another tired old racist creed. SomethingNew May 2018 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers May 2018 #279

The power dynamic displayed in the reaction to "wypipo" is interesting. TheSmarterDog May 2018 #61

I'm offended when any group uses a derogatory label towards phylny May 2018 #64

+1 gollygee May 2018 #171

You might want to take the time to read up on this person you quote with such glee. Tipperary May 2018 #69

"Leave Hillary Alone!!!1111!!!" betsuni May 2018 #79

I just find it ironic. I have no doubts that Hillary can take care of herself. Tipperary May 2018 #92

I know all about his writings... sheshe2 May 2018 #191

He's basically what he pretends to hate BannonsLiver May 2018 #246

K&R ck4829 May 2018 #77

Post removed Post removed May 2018 #78

Don't you mean all people are racist to some degree? Hortensis May 2018 #80

Racism is cultural, not biological. betsuni May 2018 #84

Half wrong. But wholly wrong about no genetic Hortensis May 2018 #86

I don't understand what you mean. betsuni May 2018 #88

:) New info. Lots of it. Science may be out of style right now Hortensis May 2018 #101

Nope. betsuni May 2018 #103

True, they are. Hortensis May 2018 #105

in/out group bias is primarily genetic Mosby May 2018 #125

No betsuni May 2018 #126

So your answer to science is a simple "no"? Bradshaw3 May 2018 #135

Anthropology. betsuni May 2018 #136

Deflection. Bradshaw3 May 2018 #150

The emergence of different cultures and languages is the evidence of the instinct to be suspicious muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #95

No, humans don't have instincts. betsuni May 2018 #97

... muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #98

Anthropology. betsuni May 2018 #99

If humans had no instincts, then babies couldn't suckle, there would be no such thing as Coventina May 2018 #122

No. betsuni May 2018 #127

No Coventina May 2018 #130

No. betsuni May 2018 #132

No. Coventina May 2018 #133

That's not science betsuni May 2018 #134

Yes, it absolutely is. Why do people raise their babies? Why do we fear things? Coventina May 2018 #137

Evolution. betsuni May 2018 #140

Evolution builds on what is already there. It doesn't erase the past. Coventina May 2018 #142

No, babies are abandoned, people are disinterested in sex, and computers were invented by betsuni May 2018 #144

I do read, that's why I know the difference between anomalies and normative behavior. Coventina May 2018 #145

Well, at least you can read! betsuni May 2018 #146

Yes, and as a reader, please give me the source of a reputable anthropologist Coventina May 2018 #148

Anthropology is not "the denial of any instincts in humans" muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #138

Yes, and more positively, we're drawn TO our "own," Hortensis May 2018 #118

By the way, I live in Japan and betsuni May 2018 #114

Thanks for introducing this derogatory term, so we can emphasize our differences and fuel up racism! Chemisse May 2018 #82

You're totally missing the point. EffieBlack May 2018 #93

The "you don't know what's in her/his heart" is my favorite. betsuni May 2018 #104

I see your point. Chemisse May 2018 #147

This doesn't "fuel up racism" EffieBlack May 2018 #157

Thank you. cwydro May 2018 #193

White people... Docreed2003 May 2018 #90

Not sure I've seen The Weight-Shifting Dance on that scale before . . . hatrack May 2018 #129

It is captivating! Docreed2003 May 2018 #131

Discomfort vs Danger OneGrassRoot May 2018 #107

Thank you! EffieBlack May 2018 #159

Bingo! Boomer May 2018 #254

Thanks for this caraher May 2018 #109

Wypipo is self-explanatory, really. MineralMan May 2018 #113

If it "carries no particular meaning", why does it need a article that explains its meaning? muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #143

In the author's case BumRushDaShow May 2018 #158

This whole list is so all over the place and disjointed B2G May 2018 #116

Don't ever ask wypipo to bring the potato salad EffieBlack May 2018 #160

It's a Russian Salad Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #178

So to summarize what a Wypipo is, they are B2G May 2018 #120

You are trying to lump all of these things into a single person BumRushDaShow May 2018 #164

This is fucking STUPID. No offense to the OP. Kirk Lover May 2018 #124

I think from those participating, most agree it is a race based pejorative. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #128

Hey, some of us like most animals better than most people spooky3 May 2018 #139

Back when we used to have threads on feminists topics ismnotwasm May 2018 #141

This is just a different flavor of racial stereotyping. procon May 2018 #149

So. ismnotwasm May 2018 #151

Just stop. procon May 2018 #162

Stop what? ismnotwasm May 2018 #163

Very stupid term. IluvPitties May 2018 #153

Thanks for that article. Skidmore May 2018 #154

Well, I have to say I totally disagree on one thing. lark May 2018 #156

Trump and the KKK aren't really Wypipo. EffieBlack May 2018 #161

This term is now being discussed on a number of other threads Gothmog May 2018 #167

"Not all white people are wypipo." Yes, but we really need more things to divide us elocs May 2018 #180

My heart goes out to wypipo. NCTraveler May 2018 #181

As much as I applaud this (My palms ache) GaryCnf May 2018 #182

I can't help but notice that most of the people expressing the most offense about the term "wypipo" EffieBlack May 2018 #185

+1 Afromania May 2018 #187

You are really good at judging people XRubicon May 2018 #192

So far, yeah. Iggo May 2018 #196

Don't quit your day job. XRubicon May 2018 #197

Aw, you're sweet! Iggo May 2018 #198

I noticed that too, Effie. sheshe2 May 2018 #195

Thanks, SheShe - I feel the same about you! EffieBlack May 2018 #199

I second that! betsuni May 2018 #206

Kick and Reced! ehrnst May 2018 #194

WYPIPO DOO Goonch May 2018 #201

Thank you for sharing this pointed article Generic Other May 2018 #215

BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NT heaven05 May 2018 #218

Your OP's heaven05 May 2018 #231

... sheshe2 May 2018 #232

Michael Harriot, author of: "Why I Could Never Vote For Hillary Clinton" oberliner May 2018 #240

Liked or not heaven05 May 2018 #242

Though my name and post count do not show it, I have been here since 2001. This wypipo thing is the wasupaloopa May 2018 #258

Dear God, thank you. Used to be we worked against being divisive. That we worked for a common phylny May 2018 #271

Don't know how to look at this get the red out May 2018 #233

Don't lose perspective Boomer May 2018 #257

Totally agree. Caliman73 May 2018 #261

I think you are spot on! BumRushDaShow May 2018 #266

Shock indeed. Caliman73 May 2018 #268

Exactly right. BumRushDaShow May 2018 #269

"Not all blacks are n......, hell there's white n......." Abu Pepe May 2018 #255

Why are so many so upset on here? Maybe 'cause it touches a nerve? HopeAgain May 2018 #256

This is how we lose elections. grossproffit May 2018 #260

No, actually, it's not. EffieBlack May 2018 #267

Wypipo put raisins in the potato salad xmas74 May 2018 #263

I think it is how twitler pronounces the words white people. kimbutgar May 2018 #276

Another offensive thread that uses a slang term to describe people. Doodley May 2018 #277