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elder phd

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74. AGREED! PLEASE READ THIS!!
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 01:14 PM
Mar 2019

first, let me say, raw story has been a go to site for me for years, if only for the video clips (don't have a TV). back in the day, i developed a reasonably good relationship with roxanne cooper, who was doing really good work and i know her role there was challenging (now ed./pub.!). sent kudos when merited, and tried to alert them to errors and misleading statements (in one case, a kinda dangerous one). she and i had a good rapport, and she was pretty much without fail professional and pleasant, most often even personable. i just reviewed our exchanges over the years, going back to 2012, and they were pleasant and chummy, almost without exception; seriously, though only about a dozen msgs. the last one was from about 18 months ago, and quite cordial, no issues. have to admit, though, that some of my msgs wrt the ad nightmares have not always been either calm or pleasant; they make me crazy!

all that said, though, the point of my voicing my opinion here and now is this:

YES! AGREED!!
the ads are a complete system overload and often intrusive, the headlines are too often misleading click bait, and they sometimes double post things (i.e., resurrecting previous pieces under different headlines) when their click rate is down.

i hate all of that, given they were once (quite likely, prior to losing net neutrality) pretty damn good. in fact, won an award for their independent reporting on the GOP influence in the prosecution of don siegelman. and, did you know they acquired alternet last spring? so, who knows what kind of pressures net neutrality is putting them through.

so, now, get this.

yesterday i tried to send a simple courteous correction to: corrections@rawstory.com

the issue? the first line in a piece about dershowitz (getting accused in open court of the epstein, er, benefits/conflict of interest) stated
"dershowitz... accessed of ..." blablabla...

obviously, should have been "accused," and just that one letter. but, imho, a rather crucial one.

my msg to corrections (subject line: dershowitz):

he was ACCUSED; not accessed!

thx


immediately it was returned b/c they had spammed my email address!

now, i had sent similar grammatical corrections in the past, as well as a few outraged comments about the ad overload, etc.

so, i simply sent the same msg, but from a different email address. and it worked fine; not returned.

however, when i saw this DU post this morning, i sent the following msg under the email address that did work yesterday:

Your readership is finally wising up to the click-mongering, money-grubbing downward spiral at the site:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211895953

Have to say, it’s been sad to watch.

Ta.


and guess what? they had spammed that other email address as well!
it all appears to be a function of their having signed up for a google group that allows them to set spam classifications. on a whim, i guess; why would they auto-spam all corrections input from readers?

i've sent roxanne a separate email, letting her know what's going on and voicing my concerns. so far, that msg has not been returned, which is a good sign; if i hear back directly from her, i will share that here.

BOTTOM LINE!! folks, so much stuff is going on, it's increasingly important that we not go at these issues impatiently or narrowly. without knowing all the details and context, we may be shooting ourselves in the foot. i don't know if there might be a way to coax them into at least explaining the ad situation to their readers (bet: net neutrality; we were warned), but surely we can lobby respectfully for better communications in hopes they'll respond to their readers.

after all, we need all the good voices and conduits we can get, all hands on deck! no sense in shoving folks overboard when we don't have all the info.

will keep you posted here!

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Can't be said enough Renew Deal Mar 2019 #1
What can't? jberryhill Mar 2019 #2
Rawstory is a giant advertising engine Renew Deal Mar 2019 #3
That can't be said enough! jberryhill Mar 2019 #6
LOL... WheelWalker Mar 2019 #16
I sae it too.... Doesn't DU enable us to present other sources too? 3-4 paragraphs even DemocracyMouse Mar 2019 #41
Not every story DownriverDem Mar 2019 #92
I love it too! itcfish Mar 2019 #105
I use RawStory as part of my online browsing everyday. I have a rigorous ad blocker CharleyDog Mar 2019 #110
A lot of times those are from paid-only sites like NYT, WSJ, WaPo mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #7
there are ways around paywalls, but in these days mopinko Mar 2019 #13
Try this. It's life changing. Renew Deal Mar 2019 #14
Wow! You're a whole new species of digitally adjusted human! DemocracyMouse Mar 2019 #32
You can set those settings in your iPad Renew Deal Mar 2019 #37
Gotta love the techies! Thanks I will give it a try Pepsidog Mar 2019 #43
More power to you fellow geek 🤓... And I 2nd your Renew Deal with some... DemocracyMouse Mar 2019 #53
Tried it and it works. Renew... EarnestPutz Mar 2019 #59
What does all this accomplish? House of Roberts Mar 2019 #61
It blocks all advertising without using AdBlocker Renew Deal Mar 2019 #71
Ok. I'm not having a problem with that, House of Roberts Mar 2019 #107
This is correct Renew Deal Mar 2019 #111
It enables an unknown third party to have a list of all of the sites you are accessing... jberryhill Mar 2019 #86
Isn't Cyprus where Wilbur Ross and a bunch of russkis like to do their banking? erronis Mar 2019 #94
Last night, their "content" was from The Daily Beast. The Daily Beast broke the story and emulatorloo Mar 2019 #31
Good point about monetizing the work of others... but... DemocracyMouse Mar 2019 #36
Kick dalton99a Mar 2019 #4
Thank you! The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #5
How do you turn off the notifications kristndem Mar 2019 #8
If you use firefox The Liberal Lion Mar 2019 #20
I have Firefox, use UBlock & NoScript! They really cut down the bullshit websites send. Works w/RS. TheBlackAdder Mar 2019 #40
Two options ToxMarz Mar 2019 #27
Fine by me! Can we do the same with PoliticusUSA? 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2019 #9
yes please. that's my #2. mopinko Mar 2019 #15
AGREE! SCantiGOP Mar 2019 #10
I think it's a good site underpants Mar 2019 #11
Me too Soph0571 Mar 2019 #35
It fucking sucks! The original sources deserve the traffic, not Raw Story. DontBooVote Mar 2019 #54
Yes jayschool2013 Mar 2019 #69
"MY" cable new outlets?? You have no idea who you're talking to. But, just so you know, I DO NOT DontBooVote Mar 2019 #70
Wow. jayschool2013 Mar 2019 #99
I read the summary and usually click on the main link underpants Mar 2019 #73
i'm fine w that. mopinko Mar 2019 #84
Not until we block Intercept links. MineralMan Mar 2019 #12
i never go there, so... mopinko Mar 2019 #17
Now that's a good idea! Docreed2003 Mar 2019 #75
Hmmm...I have an ad blocker DonaldsRump Mar 2019 #18
And your point is....what, exactly? That we should all get your ad blocker and a chromebook? DontBooVote Mar 2019 #46
Chill out. Read my text and other's. DonaldsRump Mar 2019 #81
Agreed. Their site crashes my browser. Too many ads and scripts. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #19
I avoid clicking on Raw Story and The Hill PatSeg Mar 2019 #21
More sites going that way. HuffPo used to be good; now is full of fluff & clickbait & behind curve Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #50
It feels like PatSeg Mar 2019 #89
i hate the hill, too. it's like playing whack-a-mole. mopinko Mar 2019 #85
Good analogy PatSeg Mar 2019 #91
I agree. Rawstory is not a real news source. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #22
uBlock works for me The Liberal Lion Mar 2019 #23
I was just going to post the same thing, Ive never seen anything wanting me to turn off my adblocker Snake Plissken Mar 2019 #26
And your point is? That it's our fault we don't use your ad blocker? DontBooVote Mar 2019 #47
Picking a fight? Poster simply stated that a particular way works for them. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #52
Nope. Just trying to suss out the poster's point, which doesn't address the OP's comments. DontBooVote Mar 2019 #56
I'm trying to give some advice for folks who may not know about The Liberal Lion Mar 2019 #77
The OP said he doesn't go there because they make you turn off your adblocker. Demit Mar 2019 #106
I use ghostery 2naSalit Mar 2019 #64
i avoid raw story as well. barbtries Mar 2019 #24
Two ways to get around RS... N_E_1 for Tennis Mar 2019 #25
Rawstory items are constantly posted on DU. Sneederbunk Mar 2019 #28
That's cause, while not 100% accurate, they are a liberal aggregate that posts most current issues. TheBlackAdder Mar 2019 #42
Agreed. I happen to like rawstory Poiuyt Mar 2019 #58
They are a great aggregator and starting place for liberal news IronLionZion Mar 2019 #97
Rawstory has one of the best moderated comment sections on the Net. MrScorpio Mar 2019 #78
I don't go there often but with ad blocker+ and ghostery I have not had a problem.. mitch96 Mar 2019 #29
K&R radical noodle Mar 2019 #30
Good strategy. Same I use for Wapo stories. marble falls Mar 2019 #33
Thank you. Anytime I see a link here to Raw Story I post a link to the original source emulatorloo Mar 2019 #34
Get a better ad blocker. backscatter712 Mar 2019 #38
So, it's our fault because we don't have the right ad blocker. It's not RS's fault, then, and... DontBooVote Mar 2019 #48
I quit Rawstory a couple years ago for all the above reasons Leith Mar 2019 #39
Thank you, thank you, thank you for saying this! PLEASE! Sometimes I let my guard down DontBooVote Mar 2019 #44
From what I've seen... WeekiWater Mar 2019 #45
That's 99.9% of all they do, steal other people's work and then load you down with ads! DontBooVote Mar 2019 #49
thank you, I agree gopiscrap Mar 2019 #51
My Ad Blocker Works Fine There! DoctorJoJo Mar 2019 #55
Another "You have the wrong ad blocker" post. SMH. DontBooVote Mar 2019 #57
No. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #60
Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #62
Not "following you around". You are all over this thread, hard not to bump into you. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #66
You just did! And I'm all over this thread because I hate shitty, thieving, and greed RS! And, DontBooVote Mar 2019 #68
A click on Rawstory pretty much shuts down my Ipad. ooky Mar 2019 #63
Oh but haven't you read?? YOU HAVE THE WRONG AD BLOCKER! Don't you see?? DontBooVote Mar 2019 #65
I go to Raw Story and Mediaite because they summarize the main points of videos. tblue37 Mar 2019 #67
Rawstory is one of many sites that do this. SpankMe Mar 2019 #72
AGREED! PLEASE READ THIS!! elder phd Mar 2019 #74
I like Raw Story and find the site to be informative Gothmog Mar 2019 #76
Try This IH8TU Mar 2019 #79
Just as soon as we stop giving Trump tweeter account clicks! Cryptoad Mar 2019 #80
I go there all the time and I don't turn off my adblock for any site workinclasszero Mar 2019 #82
same here. dameatball Mar 2019 #103
i like their site samnsara Mar 2019 #83
I use uBlock Origin The Truth Is Here Mar 2019 #87
Yes! Never started. Deliberately misleading clickbait headlines Hortensis Mar 2019 #88
Second the motion. They don't belong in LBN. yerop Mar 2019 #90
Great chart. Thanks for posting! n/t DonaldsRump Mar 2019 #112
I don't know why that chart has the RW Politico listed as "skews liberal" BumRushDaShow Mar 2019 #114
I use two different browsers just for that still_one Mar 2019 #93
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2019 #95
There is so much good info in this thread it is worth a bookmark. n/t Lucid Dreamer Mar 2019 #98
I have to take a shower after visiting RS B Stieg Mar 2019 #96
Many of the original stories have paywalls and most people can't afford subscriptions pnwmom Mar 2019 #100
Out of all the problems and concerns I have in my life, Raw Story is way down on the list. I go dameatball Mar 2019 #101
Rawstory is on the "ignore" list I keep in my head. hunter Mar 2019 #102
YEAH LETS PUT ANOTHER LIBERAL NEWS SOURCE OUT OF BUSINESS!!! LiberalLovinLug Mar 2019 #104
zooom point went right over your head, methinks. mopinko Mar 2019 #109
does rotstory pay people to post its crap on internet discussion boards? nt msongs Mar 2019 #108
Agreed. sarcasmo Mar 2019 #113
If rawstory served text-only content and advertising they wouldn't suck. hunter Mar 2019 #115
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