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In reply to the discussion: We should have been colonizing the solar system by now. [View all]a geek named Bob
(2,715 posts)102. probably safer than working with the problems
that steam working through the asteroid's natural fissures would cause.
If we go with the building style of most of the bubble-worlds...
Sign me up a third floor walk-up, not too far from the mid-colony ring-sea.
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Sure we can. What Odin's talking about is couch-cushion stuff compared to the defense budget. (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#3
The reason we're not colonizing the planets is because Michael Moorcock and Samuel R. Delany
klook
Aug 2012
#353
Beautiful sentiment but unilateral disarmament doesn't work. Sorry. nt.
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2012
#90
We could cut our military 90% without getting close to "unilateral disarmament"
hunter
Aug 2012
#115
I don't know about 90%, but I agree that a huge amount could be cut. 50%?
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2012
#120
If we modernized and implemented General Butler's plan for an actual Dept. of Defense
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2012
#341
Whether someone "had a vision" or not would not be a factor in whether I trusted their design or not
EOTE
Aug 2012
#494
So, are you going to provide any proof for the urban legends you've been touting as fact?
EOTE
Aug 2012
#681
You posted three sources from the NIH which had NOTHING to do with our discussion. That's called a
EOTE
Aug 2012
#692
You have absolutely nothing but non-sequitors. Nothing but putting words in my mouth.
EOTE
Aug 2012
#705
Are you slow or something? What in those articles is contrary to anything I've said?
EOTE
Aug 2012
#715
Your facts are that LSD can cause clinical insanity and that people get strychnine poisoning from
EOTE
Aug 2012
#704
How safe have I implied LSD is? I can guarantee you won't provide an honest answer to that question
EOTE
Aug 2012
#717
"Grow up" says the creepy stalker who won't stop responding to posts not addressed to him.
EOTE
Aug 2012
#760
Definitely - what I meant is I don't know if that number included them or not. (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#207
To quote SMBC: "Sorry, can't hear you. I only listen to noises that might save babies."
DRoseDARs
Aug 2012
#173
Let us gather 'round the heat of a fuming Neo-con (as he comtemplates FOUR MORE YEARS)...
a geek named Bob
Aug 2012
#9
Engineering a shed of unprecedented low density counts for something, right? (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#101
You know it's really cold there. So a shelter would have to be more than a lean to.
Cleita
Aug 2012
#178
All that free air won't do you much good if you are caught unprepared in a blizzard.
PavePusher
Aug 2012
#228
You think we should never have started mining. You are against technology. (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#303
Open pit mining doesn't solve the problem. It also scars the landscape. Go to West Virginia
Cleita
Aug 2012
#433
That could probably be arranged. Send them all to their Libertarian paradise with
Cleita
Aug 2012
#237
Oh, you just got the humor? I was there all along with the Libertarian paradise meme.
Cleita
Aug 2012
#290
You don't really think we could ever pollute space to any significant degree do you?
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#640
But what about the deadly pollution of the delicate vacuum, by industrial fumes?
a geek named Bob
Aug 2012
#641
60 years ago would be 1952, at which point we had already significantly
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#644
Orbital ballistics is an entirely different subject from "little regard to what we leave behind".
PavePusher
Aug 2012
#197
There are no Na'vi. We're it. We're the only manifestation of intelligent life in the universe.
lumberjack_jeff
Aug 2012
#394
What color will the sky be? I kid of course, surely it will be fluorescent blue. n/t
2on2u
Aug 2012
#67
I was thinking that the asteroid's bulk would keep cosmic rays and solar flares out.
Odin2005
Aug 2012
#124
There would be enough leftover asteroid or lunar regolith, plus 'slag' from the refining process....
LongTomH
Aug 2012
#134
Fair enough. Plenty of silica on the moon as well as nearby asteroids. n/t
A HERETIC I AM
Aug 2012
#180
you could build the mirrors out of thick tin foil, and deisgn the whole thing to
a geek named Bob
Aug 2012
#280
Robert Goddard flew the first liquid-fuel rocket just 22 years after the Wrights' first flight....
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#439
Robotic exploration is much cheaper and will produce more technical innovation
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#50
The object of space exploration should be the scientific info we can obtain. That, of course,
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#65
So you think if we 'stay home and play nice', your putative Vogons will leave us alone?
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#444
Being as their doesn't seem to be any other intelligent lifeforms in the Solar system...
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#459
"Not all populations and cultures behave in that way" How about the Maya and the people of Rapa Nui?
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#446
If you *really* feel that way, I know some people you should talk to:
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#442
You're crazy. The most important thing in the world is to make rich people richer
valerief
Aug 2012
#135
What if we convince the PTB to build penal colonies in the Kuiper Belt? (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#164
Would renaming it Spacestralia and wrapping a cheesy reality show around it draw migrants? (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#175
If you're starting off with posts like that I sure hope you stick around for awhile! (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#218
For all those people who are sneering at those who are concerned about polluting space,
Cleita
Aug 2012
#210
I'll continue to sneer at anyone who tries to cite Avatar as evidence in an argument. (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#212
My "problem" is that it has zero bearing - none, zip, nada - on any reasonable argument. (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#220
Are you seriously trying to argue that airless asteroids are somehow vibrant ecosystems? (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#268
So you use advanced technology to sustain life, but prefer others go without?
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#456
Actually, it would have to be a communal farming society like the New Stone Agers, the
Cleita
Aug 2012
#454
"The land belongs to everyone." How many homeless people stay at your place?
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#449
Me, I stay at their place. I can't offer my benefactors land to anyone can I now? n/t
Cleita
Aug 2012
#452
You're venturing rapidly into "don't know what you're talking about" territory with that analogy. nt
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#265
Well, when you figure out how to plant a garden, without needed energy sources and
Cleita
Aug 2012
#293
My bad. I didn't elaborate that it wasn't an electric or gas heater. I forget that
Cleita
Aug 2012
#621
I fully understood the implication. You don't understand heater efficiencies.
NCTraveler
Aug 2012
#622
They want to privatize the Space Program. What killed it was the Privatizers. They don't want
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#244
Health insurance for all = "silly causes." Welcome to my Ignore list. N.B. It's
coalition_unwilling
Aug 2012
#390
Perhaps the space based weapons (in both high and low earth orbit) had priority, Odin2005.
bobthedrummer
Aug 2012
#252
Robotic probes will be the principal mode of space exploration for the foreseeable future
entanglement
Aug 2012
#254
All the money or will in the world won't change the fact that we don't know HOW.
LeftyMom
Aug 2012
#256
We can't do it for $300 billion. Unless we decide the people involved are disposable.
LeftyMom
Aug 2012
#295
We need to get the country back into realizing the importance of science and exploration.
Marrah_G
Aug 2012
#269
We've already fired a missile at the moon. First it was explored, then was used as target practice.
Trillo
Aug 2012
#363
Well, I think there is some on that 3rd rock.... guess that eliminates your point #1
Trillo
Aug 2012
#396
You said it yourself. NASA is competing directly with the Pentagon for technology spending.
leveymg
Aug 2012
#304
sigh... as an astrophysicist, I feel the saddest for the irrationally optimistic
MStuart
Aug 2012
#308
When I was in elementary school (1960-66) my dream was to be on the 1st manned mission to Mars...
Rowdyboy
Aug 2012
#312
I told them that whole "multicellular" thing was just a fad, but no, they wouldn't listen!
JHB
Aug 2012
#348
Star Trek is just a TV show. I know that sometimes, *it just seems sooo real!!!!*. Just tv.
Romulox
Aug 2012
#381
Yes I am. Because we all KNOW that Science FANTASY animates much of this discussion. nt
Romulox
Aug 2012
#385
None, so far as I know. Who is stopping *you* from beginning a new life in the cosmos, right now?
Romulox
Aug 2012
#525
You are dead set on the "if we haven't done it now it must be impossible" mentality
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#529
Discussion hits a brick wall when you start refuting points nobody has made. nt
Romulox
Aug 2012
#629
You put quote marks around something I didn't say, right in your subject line for post 529.
Romulox
Aug 2012
#666
And you still haven't answered MY question: Who's stopping you from living in space? What physical
Romulox
Aug 2012
#667
I'm not the one complaining about it, though. YOU are. So it's your job to convince everyone
Romulox
Aug 2012
#671
Learn how to use quotation marks, please! I NEVER used the word "impossible". nt
Romulox
Aug 2012
#680
This is childish. I will make the points I wish to make. I will not refute points only you have
Romulox
Aug 2012
#689
You really can't think it's both impossible and possible at the same time
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#693
And you're refuting point I haven't made again! My point was that no one is "stopping" you from
Romulox
Aug 2012
#673
If you want other people to pay for it, you'll have to convince us. That's just how it works. Else
Romulox
Aug 2012
#679
This is childish. Perhaps I'll just invent some nonsense, put quotes around, and demand you defend
Romulox
Aug 2012
#682
Quotation marks are a representation that someone said those exact words. You're being dishonest. nt
Romulox
Aug 2012
#691
The "rugged individualist" stuff was something only the HAL guy mentioned. I just said we aren't
Romulox
Aug 2012
#677
"Space colonization" = Randian excuse to ignore the environment and poor
Liber T. Anjustis
Aug 2012
#401
no, the international financial cartel needs that money to extort more countries
librechik
Aug 2012
#404
meh, I'm one of those people who think robots can do the job better for the foreseeable future
librechik
Aug 2012
#414
yes--be sure to wear a lead cup--and don't start any long term relationships
librechik
Aug 2012
#419
You don't get to start a second planet until you clean up the first one...
Jeff In Milwaukee
Aug 2012
#429
Personally, I consider this a possible RW meme, "The elect are headed to a better place. Fuck Earth"
patrice
Aug 2012
#453
You forgot "I'm not personally interested in this, therefore it's evil." (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#476
What parts of the words "Personally" and "possible" do you not understand & what you just
patrice
Aug 2012
#479
Actually, there was a problem with the term 'space colony' back in the late 70s.
LongTomH
Aug 2012
#508
I think for any worth while expedition into space we would have to live at least 100+ years. And
demosincebirth
Aug 2012
#577
It's all great for the imagination and I think about it too. But for any deep space exportation, and
demosincebirth
Aug 2012
#785
Well, not all Greeks and not all gifts, just a warning to be wary of vehicles that can hide weapons.
patrice
Aug 2012
#512
he, he, "stuttering" . . . and therein lies a tale of those who can't/don't "speak" the "speech"
patrice
Aug 2012
#554
Consider changing that "erudition" to cognition and you might BEGIN, like Tama and I and Others, to
patrice
Aug 2012
#593
If some billionaire wants to have a really crappy (fun?) vacation to Mars, who's stopping him/her?
cpwm17
Aug 2012
#646
If we had just followed through with Reagan's Star Wars and weaponized space ...
Jim__
Aug 2012
#625
The standard, tired "anything to do with space is military in nature" angle, I figured. (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#751
You could probably simulate one of these threads with a pretty short perl script. (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#755
A chat channel I hung out on awhile back had a really out-there gun nut...
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#766
Wow, this has turned into one of the longest running threads I've seen here in a long time!
LongTomH
Aug 2012
#626
The L5 Society was absorbed (engulfed and devoured by, assimilated by) the National Space Institute
LongTomH
Aug 2012
#647
Yes, this is true...and we could have cured hunger, provided shelter and education for the world
Taverner
Aug 2012
#654
Holy crap Odin, I think this is one of the biggest threads I've ever seen
EvolveOrConvolve
Aug 2012
#657
Kind of like graywarrior's "I want to create a thread that never dies" thread,
kentauros
Aug 2012
#724
Air-conditioning bill for our troops in the Middle East greater than the NASA budget.
David Zephyr
Aug 2012
#684
And instead we are being told to bow our heads to the 'job creators' and arguing with people who
ck4829
Aug 2012
#735
You have that wrong. It's the MILITARIZATION of Space. Remember "Star Wars"? Do you
patrice
Aug 2012
#776