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715. Are you slow or something? What in those articles is contrary to anything I've said?

Wed Aug 29, 2012, 05:12 PM

Aug 2012

I have a feeling I'll be waiting a really fucking long time to get an answer to that. And once again, I found numerous errors in the first fucking paragraph, that's really sad. I've yet to prove anything you've said false? OK, here you go champ:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_there_strychnine_in_LSD
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080129182210AARm267
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_misconceptions_about_illegal_drugs#Strychnine

http://www.snopes.com/legal/lsdcrazy.asp

And before you reply with more idiocy and mention that MY links don't come from the NIH, keep in mind that I'm trying to prove a negative here. You're not going to find any articles on the NIH which say that LSD DOESN'T contain strychnine, that would just be stupid. Got it, Chachi?

And once again, I never even remotely mentioned getting drugs subsidized. I've called you on that multiple times. So now you're not just a liar, you're a moron too.

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Sounds good to me! a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #467

"Doesn't seem to be" tama Aug 2012 #470

"Not all populations and cultures behave in that way" How about the Maya and the people of Rapa Nui? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #446

How about the Maya? tama Aug 2012 #465

Well said! a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #471

If you *really* feel that way, I know some people you should talk to: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #442

The technology is already here to colonize the moon Taverner Aug 2012 #123

We've had the tech since 1939 a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #130

You're crazy. The most important thing in the world is to make rich people richer valerief Aug 2012 #135

Then pass me my straitjacket, and get me my meds a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #147

Time to get drunk and jaded with the rest of us. valerief Aug 2012 #153

I'd rather build a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #156

What if we convince the PTB to build penal colonies in the Kuiper Belt? (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #164

LOL a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #170

Would renaming it Spacestralia and wrapping a cheesy reality show around it draw migrants? (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #175

hmmm a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #186

This subject should TRANSCEND political wrangling! fxmakeupguy Aug 2012 #148

Excellent post! kentauros Aug 2012 #208

WECOME TO DU!!! Odin2005 Aug 2012 #216

If you're starting off with posts like that I sure hope you stick around for awhile! (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #218

Welcome a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #235

For all those people who are sneering at those who are concerned about polluting space, Cleita Aug 2012 #210

I'll continue to sneer at anyone who tries to cite Avatar as evidence in an argument. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #212

So it's a cartoon. Is that your problem? Cleita Aug 2012 #214

My "problem" is that it has zero bearing - none, zip, nada - on any reasonable argument. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #220

Nor should it so why do other people bring it up? Cleita Aug 2012 #223

Cleita a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #232

The Amazon rain forest, a cave environment, and <shudder> Pandora are all Codeine Aug 2012 #236

This is the error people make. Cleita Aug 2012 #245

But an asteroid isn't a cave. Codeine Aug 2012 #249

How do you know? Cleita Aug 2012 #255

Are you seriously trying to argue that airless asteroids are somehow vibrant ecosystems? (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #268

No and I don't know where you get that. Cleita Aug 2012 #274

By that 'logic' we shouldn't be mining anything, anywhere, ever. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #286

That would be fine with me. Cleita Aug 2012 #289

WTF??? a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #291

There are other materials to make those things from. Cleita Aug 2012 #330

That's a really stupid thing to say via the Internet. Posteritatis Aug 2012 #300

Please leave. You only want to insult and feel superior to anyone who Cleita Aug 2012 #332

Did you post that with a sustainable, organically-grown computer? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #448

Of course not. Cleita Aug 2012 #450

So you use advanced technology to sustain life, but prefer others go without? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #456

Oh Snap! a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #472

*FACEPALM* Odin2005 Aug 2012 #306

And you have the chutzpah to post that on the Internet? PavePusher Aug 2012 #335

Why do I have to do that? I am a woman and I know how to spin and weave from Cleita Aug 2012 #338

Cleita a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #349

Actually, it would have to be a communal farming society like the New Stone Agers, the Cleita Aug 2012 #454

If it all broke down a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #460

Living like we did 200 years ago wouldn't be that bad. Cleita Aug 2012 #498

And you'd have have no antibiotics, few vaccines a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #517

Let me make something clear. Cleita Aug 2012 #527

While I like a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #531

I wasn't talking about doing it for hours or even doing it at all. Cleita Aug 2012 #534

hmmm... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #535

Spinning is a high intensity bicycle class in a gym. Cleita Aug 2012 #538

Interesting... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #543

It's not unhip what you do, but many people who have sedentary jobs Cleita Aug 2012 #546

sure... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #548

Oh it's not up to me to do it, but you guys who dream of Cleita Aug 2012 #549

in that case a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #551

Because it will give you the knowledge to fix them in space. Cleita Aug 2012 #553

Nice chatting with you, too a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #555

Gardening communities tama Aug 2012 #496

okay... here we go a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #515

Response tama Aug 2012 #536

Response to response a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #542

... tama Aug 2012 #573

Tama... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #575

Willing I am tama Aug 2012 #591

This is the stuff that makes my blood tingle a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #594

Are you familiar tama Aug 2012 #598

"The land belongs to everyone." How many homeless people stay at your place? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #449

Me, I stay at their place. I can't offer my benefactors land to anyone can I now? n/t Cleita Aug 2012 #452

Without either, BILLIONS STARVE. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #342

That is just a conjecture on your part. Cleita Aug 2012 #343

It HAS been tried a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #360

After hunter gatherers, there were farmers in the Stone Age. Cleita Aug 2012 #427

Cleita a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #428

Sorry, it wasn't technology but knowledge. Cleita Aug 2012 #505

Okay... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #519

Curanderas/os tama Aug 2012 #595

There is no use explaining that here. Cleita Aug 2012 #603

Who does? :D tama Aug 2012 #605

For that matter... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #430

Terra preta tama Aug 2012 #499

Thanks. I have actually read about it. Cleita Aug 2012 #502

I guessed you might have tama Aug 2012 #509

It likely was a planet a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #272

Avatar was about an earth-like planet. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #238

Nothing is really dead. Cleita Aug 2012 #250

You're venturing rapidly into "don't know what you're talking about" territory with that analogy. nt Posteritatis Aug 2012 #265

Cleita a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #276

Well, when you figure out how to plant a garden, without needed energy sources and Cleita Aug 2012 #293

Okay... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #297

You are amazing. drokhole Aug 2012 #345

Is Mars really that dead? Cleita Aug 2012 #275

But it's dead now. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #281

So that means we should go destroy a geological record? Cleita Aug 2012 #282

Terraforming Mars will take a few hundred years. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #285

I don't think you will ever get an atmosphere through terraforming that will Cleita Aug 2012 #493

Okay... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #287

You could be no more wrong. NCTraveler Aug 2012 #468

No I don't but frankly I think we really need to examine our footprint and Cleita Aug 2012 #492

You say you didn't have a heater growing up. NCTraveler Aug 2012 #611

My bad. I didn't elaborate that it wasn't an electric or gas heater. I forget that Cleita Aug 2012 #621

I fully understood the implication. You don't understand heater efficiencies. NCTraveler Aug 2012 #622

If it is good for you. Cleita Aug 2012 #623

Cleita, it likely WAS alive a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #283

You keep talking about "polluting space". PavePusher Aug 2012 #331

Then go away and find someone rational enough for you. Cleita Aug 2012 #334

Is there a difference between a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #537

Guessing what you are thinking. Cleita Aug 2012 #541

I don't like intimidation a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #547

Cost of Hubble telescope program over the last THIRTY years = $10 billion jsr Aug 2012 #230

They want to privatize the Space Program. What killed it was the Privatizers. They don't want sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #244

The solar system would beg to differ: coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #246

Buddha's left nut! a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #267

Again, the life on other planets wants us to remain on earth: coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #370

Coalition... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #371

Health insurance for all = "silly causes." Welcome to my Ignore list. N.B. It's coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #390

here we go a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #391

Perhaps the space based weapons (in both high and low earth orbit) had priority, Odin2005. bobthedrummer Aug 2012 #252

Robotic probes will be the principal mode of space exploration for the foreseeable future entanglement Aug 2012 #254

All the money or will in the world won't change the fact that we don't know HOW. LeftyMom Aug 2012 #256

We can do it for $30 billion dollars. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #266

We can't do it for $300 billion. Unless we decide the people involved are disposable. LeftyMom Aug 2012 #295

please! a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #299

We can discover "how" through innovation. kentauros Aug 2012 #315

Let's send the Republicans to Uranus AnnieBW Aug 2012 #264

+1000 ellisonz Aug 2012 #344

We need to get the country back into realizing the importance of science and exploration. Marrah_G Aug 2012 #269

If we do that a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #270

I agree that if we are going to spend trillions on military hardware, how much Cleita Aug 2012 #271

Yeah, let's spread our hatred and fighting to the stars. Trillo Aug 2012 #301

brilliant "logic" a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #302

We've already fired a missile at the moon. First it was explored, then was used as target practice. Trillo Aug 2012 #363

Oh sweet jeebers a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #368

You guys are so predictable. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #307

Most folks are pretty nice. Trillo Aug 2012 #366

riiight a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #374

Well, I think there is some on that 3rd rock.... guess that eliminates your point #1 Trillo Aug 2012 #396

Trillo a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #397

I'm against that meme tama Aug 2012 #501

You said it yourself. NASA is competing directly with the Pentagon for technology spending. leveymg Aug 2012 #304

I wholly, emphatically agree with your post. David__77 Aug 2012 #305

I'm a Technogaian who think technology and sustainibility go hand an hand. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #310

sigh... as an astrophysicist, I feel the saddest for the irrationally optimistic MStuart Aug 2012 #308

LMAO, people like you in 1950 thought space flight was impossible. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #313

I don't know where you're getting your information from... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #319

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #322

I find it difficult to believe that you are an astrophysicist, kentauros Aug 2012 #323

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #324

Ah, the classic example of a kentauros Aug 2012 #328

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #326

Yeah, but when the fuel runs out, and all forward momentum stops dead, kentauros Aug 2012 #333

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #336

And we can't get to the Indies by sailing west.... n/t PavePusher Aug 2012 #337

When I was in elementary school (1960-66) my dream was to be on the 1st manned mission to Mars... Rowdyboy Aug 2012 #312

Anthropocentric BS Sick of the GOP Aug 2012 #317

Hey Buddy! a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #318

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #329

What Warren said! a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #352

Preach it brother. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #393

So we let the misanthropes stay on parts of Earth a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #395

Please read again what you wrote tama Aug 2012 #539

It usually means "man hater" a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #544

If the hint was too subtle tama Aug 2012 #550

Oh? a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #552

A thing about philosophy tama Aug 2012 #580

Tama... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #581

Best space thread I've seen here in quite a while! LunaSea Aug 2012 #346

Why? We are NOT special and WILL die out one day regardless. CaptPicard Aug 2012 #347

I told them that whole "multicellular" thing was just a fad, but no, they wouldn't listen! JHB Aug 2012 #348

That was super-helpful. nt Codeine Aug 2012 #351

Thank you for your less than stirring screed a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #354

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #356

too many a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #361

That doesn't sound like the Jean-Luc Picard we all know. Efilroft Sul Aug 2012 #378

You are being disingenous to dismiss ... GeorgeGist Aug 2012 #365

no... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #373

Star Trek is just a TV show. I know that sometimes, *it just seems sooo real!!!!*. Just tv. Romulox Aug 2012 #381

so you are going to bring up a TV show??? a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #384

Yes I am. Because we all KNOW that Science FANTASY animates much of this discussion. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #385

Who's this We? a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #387

Gibberish. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #388

I agree with you, that a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #389

What immutable law of nature prevents us from ever leaving earth? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #436

None, so far as I know. Who is stopping *you* from beginning a new life in the cosmos, right now? Romulox Aug 2012 #525

You are dead set on the "if we haven't done it now it must be impossible" mentality 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #529

Discussion hits a brick wall when you start refuting points nobody has made. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #629

Sorry, someone else must have said: 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #638

Is that a physical or a philosophical question? a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #639

You put quote marks around something I didn't say, right in your subject line for post 529. Romulox Aug 2012 #666

And you still haven't answered MY question: Who's stopping you from living in space? What physical Romulox Aug 2012 #667

You really think it's an individual effort? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #668

I'm not the one complaining about it, though. YOU are. So it's your job to convince everyone Romulox Aug 2012 #671

Now you're moving the goalposts 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #676

Learn how to use quotation marks, please! I NEVER used the word "impossible". nt Romulox Aug 2012 #680

So now you're saying colonizing spaces isn't impossible? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #686

This is childish. I will make the points I wish to make. I will not refute points only you have Romulox Aug 2012 #689

You really can't think it's both impossible and possible at the same time 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #693

And you're refuting point I haven't made again! My point was that no one is "stopping" you from Romulox Aug 2012 #673

fallacy a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #675

If you want other people to pay for it, you'll have to convince us. That's just how it works. Else Romulox Aug 2012 #679

Gee, dude... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #683

Projection 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #678

This is childish. Perhaps I'll just invent some nonsense, put quotes around, and demand you defend Romulox Aug 2012 #682

So . . . stay the course but with quotation marks? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #685

Quotation marks are a representation that someone said those exact words. You're being dishonest. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #691

If you insist. Why not clarify your stance. 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #696

I'M a rugged individualist, and I have to a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #674

The "rugged individualist" stuff was something only the HAL guy mentioned. I just said we aren't Romulox Aug 2012 #677

Presented without endorsement caraher Aug 2012 #400

"Space colonization" = Randian excuse to ignore the environment and poor Liber T. Anjustis Aug 2012 #401

Such gleamingly fine logic a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #406

Not one of those people but, janlyn Aug 2012 #402

Maybe it's part of YOUR nature a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #407

one tiny issue BOG PERSON Aug 2012 #403

oh dear... Here we go a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #408

it's not *my favorite cause* BOG PERSON Aug 2012 #411

...sigh... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #412

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #415

I seem to have touched a nerve... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #416

Um... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #421

no, the international financial cartel needs that money to extort more countries librechik Aug 2012 #404

Then we self-fund the project a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #409

meh, I'm one of those people who think robots can do the job better for the foreseeable future librechik Aug 2012 #414

okay then... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #417

yes--be sure to wear a lead cup--and don't start any long term relationships librechik Aug 2012 #419

librechik... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #420

right back atcha, jr! librechik Aug 2012 #422

Now I'm confused... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #423

Also... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #418

Why? Because we haven't f*cked up this planet enough? (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #405

Maybe some of us want to get away from the shit-slingers a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #410

You don't get to start a second planet until you clean up the first one... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #429

HEH a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #431

Who gets to decide who leaves and who has to stay? tama Aug 2012 #451

Therein lies the question... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #462

Bro, tama Aug 2012 #482

No such thing... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #484

Some of us dare to take a look tama Aug 2012 #443

Tama... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #457

I kinda like Socrates tama Aug 2012 #478

cool a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #480

Know thyself - gnothi seauton tama Aug 2012 #488

it's great a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #489

Anti-philosophical attitude tama Aug 2012 #503

Tama... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #518

Rhetorics aside tama Aug 2012 #528

This seems to be your thing a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #532

Apparently not XemaSab Sep 2012 #809

....but then I got high... jberryhill Aug 2012 #432

point? a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #435

It's a song, Bob jberryhill Aug 2012 #445

Oh a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #458

I was going to colonize space, but I got high jberryhill Aug 2012 #461

In a weird sort of way... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #463

Thanks for the great thread. MyUncle Aug 2012 #438

We aim to please a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #441

Personally, I consider this a possible RW meme, "The elect are headed to a better place. Fuck Earth" patrice Aug 2012 #453

Never enough facepalms for comments like these. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #466

SO much of the comments against space travel a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #469

You forgot "I'm not personally interested in this, therefore it's evil." (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #476

okay... that one got by me a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #477

What parts of the words "Personally" and "possible" do you not understand & what you just patrice Aug 2012 #479

could you elucidate? a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #481

Of course I could, but "sissy don't play your game." nt patrice Aug 2012 #486

??? a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #487

Maybe we should stop "colonizing" things in general. Puregonzo1188 Aug 2012 #473

Okay... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #474

How about a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #475

Actually, there was a problem with the term 'space colony' back in the late 70s. LongTomH Aug 2012 #508

And tama Aug 2012 #511

don't worry this isn't going to happen Johonny Aug 2012 #510

Up to you a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #524

I work in this field you know Johonny Aug 2012 #540

Kind of the whole point is to disagree, until someone comes up a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #545

I think for any worth while expedition into space we would have to live at least 100+ years. And demosincebirth Aug 2012 #577

Demosincebirth a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #730

It's all great for the imagination and I think about it too. But for any deep space exportation, and demosincebirth Aug 2012 #785

well... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #787

Addendum... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #788

Naw, let's build one of these: kentauros Aug 2012 #797

EEP a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #798

I know. kentauros Aug 2012 #805

If I remember my readings correctly a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #806

I find our planet fascinating...every day. nt demosincebirth Aug 2012 #795

...and that's fine a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #800

I believe Paul Wellstone would beware of "Greeks" bearing "gifts." nt patrice Aug 2012 #483

How is this relevant? a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #485

The militarization & weaponization of space: patrice Aug 2012 #627

Timeo danaos et dona ferentes tama Aug 2012 #504

Well, not all Greeks and not all gifts, just a warning to be wary of vehicles that can hide weapons. patrice Aug 2012 #512

Matrix tama Aug 2012 #522

he, he, "stuttering" . . . and therein lies a tale of those who can't/don't "speak" the "speech" patrice Aug 2012 #554

it's a bad sign a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #557

sez you. patrice Aug 2012 #568

right... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #570

Thanks, I was rather proud tama Aug 2012 #585

Okay... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #586

LOL tama Aug 2012 #592

Personally... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #597

"overly verbose ego-defense" tama Aug 2012 #604

Tama... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #608

I know tama Aug 2012 #610

Ma'am. Yes, Ma'am. a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #613

Consider changing that "erudition" to cognition and you might BEGIN, like Tama and I and Others, to patrice Aug 2012 #593

I'll stick with a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #596

Never agreed with Chomsky tama Aug 2012 #602

Had to look wiki tama Aug 2012 #600

One of the connotations of erudition a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #614

"No need to idolize them." tama Aug 2012 #652

I see two outcomes of an attempt to colonize Mars CubicleGuy Aug 2012 #497

This message was self-deleted by its author randome Aug 2012 #500

Why bring them back? LunaSea Aug 2012 #516

Bring me the Universe... sibelian Aug 2012 #507

and I'll have a cookie while doing it a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #533

Wow, this is a long thread. But I *have* to offer my 2 cents. Proles Aug 2012 #520

The window for colonizing any planet is closing.. LunaSea Aug 2012 #523

The British television series UFO, produced in 1970, Art_from_Ark Aug 2012 #556

Both shows were interesting a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #558

+Billions and billions Grave Grumbler Aug 2012 #561

Okay... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #562

If I had my way, colonizing the Solar System. Grave Grumbler Aug 2012 #564

Gotta start somewhere... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #566

While I certainly advocate for the exploration of Mars, Grave Grumbler Aug 2012 #574

I can go with that. a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #576

We'll certainly know more about Ceres in 2015 Grave Grumbler Aug 2012 #579

Flying to Mars with chemical rockets is daff Kolesar Aug 2012 #578

the standard trip a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #583

Try Plasma Propulsion LongTomH Aug 2012 #601

Or go cheap, and build a non-nuke Orion a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #635

I Want to Live on the Moon and Snort an endless supply of... fascisthunter Aug 2012 #582

remember to cut it a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #584

oh? fascisthunter Aug 2012 #587

Pure Helium will kill you a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #588

LOL! I don't of course fascisthunter Aug 2012 #589

Dude... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #590

Robert Zubrin is an anti-environmentalist Randian McGee from Muskogee Aug 2012 #607

sources? a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #609

We should be solving problems on Earth by now. Coyotl Aug 2012 #612

Facts not in evidence a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #615

How are you going to change the gravity on Mars? Coyotl Aug 2012 #620

Do you have a point to make? a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #628

Life has evolved here on Earth for billions of years. This is our home. cpwm17 Aug 2012 #616

Okay... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #633

If some billionaire wants to have a really crappy (fun?) vacation to Mars, who's stopping him/her? cpwm17 Aug 2012 #646

It's a new frontier a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #648

No way! Earth First! Zorra Aug 2012 #624

WOW! Great screed a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #634

If we had just followed through with Reagan's Star Wars and weaponized space ... Jim__ Aug 2012 #625

??? a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #637

The standard, tired "anything to do with space is military in nature" angle, I figured. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #751

Ah... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #752

You could probably simulate one of these threads with a pretty short perl script. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #755

Oh? a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #758

A chat channel I hung out on awhile back had a really out-there gun nut... Posteritatis Aug 2012 #766

I remember dealing with a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #767

They had to get written up for that? Oy. Posteritatis Aug 2012 #769

It was a publicly run program a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #770

To be fair, in such a situation I wouldn't be shocked. Posteritatis Aug 2012 #772

My wife says a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #773

Wow, this has turned into one of the longest running threads I've seen here in a long time! LongTomH Aug 2012 #626

great thread! a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #636

The L5 Society was absorbed (engulfed and devoured by, assimilated by) the National Space Institute LongTomH Aug 2012 #647

Interesting! a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #649

You can get part of the story from the NSS website LongTomH Aug 2012 #655

LongTomH a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #656

Interesting. I'd love to read it sometime! LongTomH Aug 2012 #658

I am immediately intrigued. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #774

hmmm... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #775

Yes, this is true...and we could have cured hunger, provided shelter and education for the world Taverner Aug 2012 #654

Holy crap Odin, I think this is one of the biggest threads I've ever seen EvolveOrConvolve Aug 2012 #657

I say we go a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #659

Kind of like graywarrior's "I want to create a thread that never dies" thread, kentauros Aug 2012 #724

Cool! a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #727

I like mass-drivers. kentauros Aug 2012 #729

Cool tune! a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #783

I know how a rail gun works kentauros Aug 2012 #791

You would cancel the momentum a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #792

I thought as much on the momentum part. kentauros Aug 2012 #793

The idea I'm pushing, for the rocks a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #799

Okay, well, that idea is similar to another idea kentauros Aug 2012 #804

Whatever you guys and gals decide to do is going to be fine with me. GliderGuider Aug 2012 #665

Air-conditioning bill for our troops in the Middle East greater than the NASA budget. David Zephyr Aug 2012 #684

What I'm tired of tama Aug 2012 #706

I like the US military a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #710

And instead we are being told to bow our heads to the 'job creators' and arguing with people who ck4829 Aug 2012 #735

only 230 posts to go... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #771

Of course, the REAL number of posts to achieve is kentauros Aug 2012 #794

You have that wrong. It's the MILITARIZATION of Space. Remember "Star Wars"? Do you patrice Aug 2012 #776

Ummm... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #777

TOTALLY Wrong... Iggy Aug 2012 #802

pfft a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #803

Weak, Very Weak Iggy Sep 2012 #807

Well a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #808