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In the discussion thread: Today a twenty-something told me that she doesn't plan to have children because of climate change. [View all]

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Mon Jan 6, 2020, 09:22 PM

BigmanPigman (50,164 posts)

55. Smart decision.

I made that decision a long time ago but for different reasons. If I had to do it again I would add Climate Change to the list. The birth rate is going down in the US for the first time since 1900 and it is because people are finally thinking, wow, imagine that?!? The young adults are smarter than we give them credit for.

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134 replies	Author	Time	Post
Today a twenty-something told me that she doesn't plan to have children because of climate change. [View all]	milestogo	Jan 2020	OP
Both my twenty-something kids feel the same way.	yardwork	Jan 2020	#1
Are you worried about the suffering and challenges your kids are going to endure?	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#102
Of course.	yardwork	Jan 2020	#104
Do you regret having them? Knowing now what their future may be?	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#106
Of course not. But my children's choices are their own.	yardwork	Jan 2020	#107
Of course you can't tell them what to do but you can say what you did.	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#108
They already know that.	yardwork	Jan 2020	#116
I've heard that too.	C_U_L8R	Jan 2020	#2
Smart woman.	Cattledog	Jan 2020	#3
I agree, smart. I made the same decision forty odd years ago.	LiberalLoner	Jan 2020	#20
The nihilism of the 17-25 year olds that I know is remarkable even to this hard Genxer.	WhiskeyGrinder	Jan 2020	#4
How is that? Isn't her decision wise if she only envisions suffering for a child she bears? nt	Blue_true	Jan 2020	#22
She's young enough herself to probably be a casualty of climate change.	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#96
Excellent point about her youth and that climate change will impact her.	Blue_true	Jan 2020	#117
Back in the day, having young ones in the family was a survival tactic.	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#122
If things get as bad as they are tracking to be, those adult children	Blue_true	Jan 2020	#123
It's the kind of life billions now live	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#124
Climate change will present exponentially more difficult challenges, even	Blue_true	Jan 2020	#125
The effects of climate change will not be uniform throughout the world	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#134
Maybe it is...	Newest Reality	Jan 2020	#32
Eventually America will only be filled with brainwashed rwnj children if we let the future scare us	dustyscamp	Jan 2020	#5
"'Let' let the future scare us"	Duppers	Jan 2020	#26
If I was diagnosed with cancer and had only a little bit of time left on this world	dustyscamp	Jan 2020	#52
Know any climate scientists?	Duppers	Jan 2020	#82
2nd thoughts	Duppers	Jan 2020	#86
If we wreck this planet, no fucking way do we have any business	Crunchy Frog	Jan 2020	#88
In the end, Earth, because it's always changing, will kill every living thing.	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#109
But would you decide to have (more) children?	robbob	Jan 2020	#110
The cold hard facts are that the effects of climate change will not be uniform around the world	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#64
I am around that age a lot and every one has made this comment.	Bummfuzzle	Jan 2020	#6
My 32yo son will remain childless.	Duppers	Jan 2020	#28
it does not take degrees to understand climate change	Skittles	Jan 2020	#41
The ones I know are working on their secondary degrees, mostly. Right.	Bummfuzzle	Jan 2020	#48
👍	Duppers	Jan 2020	#83
I decided not to when I was 11	safeinOhio	Jan 2020	#7
Ditto that. I could see this shit coming decades ago. n/t	CousinIT	Jan 2020	#14
Me too (or there about) ...	Auggie	Jan 2020	#27
I hear somewhat older childless couples among my own friends saying now that they are glad they	hlthe2b	Jan 2020	#8
On The Beach.	ret5hd	Jan 2020	#9
+1. Check it out.	yonder	Jan 2020	#10
Yep.	sheshe2	Jan 2020	#30
I said the same thing	Bev54	Jan 2020	#11
My daughter is 24 and has zero interest in kids	Takket	Jan 2020	#12
I don't want children, but when I was a twenty something I didn't know any female who didn't.	milestogo	Jan 2020	#13
Climate change is just one reason	Disaffected	Jan 2020	#15
Climate change equals	Duppers	Jan 2020	#31
True,	Disaffected	Jan 2020	#65
Both of my married sons already decided years ago that they won't reproduce.	scarletwoman	Jan 2020	#16
I've mostly felt the same way	Ahpook	Jan 2020	#69
A lot of us were saying this in the sixties and seventies ...	marble falls	Jan 2020	#17
Our 30 something daughter feels the same,	yonder	Jan 2020	#18
I'm sure	bdamomma	Jan 2020	#70
Perspective. Thank you.	yonder	Jan 2020	#80
Real estate and farm prices crashed in the 1920s	Warpy	Jan 2020	#92
Hello Warpy!!!!	CountAllVotes	Jan 2020	#98
Personally, it would be a financial choice not to have kids	sakabatou	Jan 2020	#19
Maybe she's read "The Population Bomb", by Paul Ehrlich	Sonny Mirviss	Jan 2020	#21
Just found my copy of that book	csziggy	Jan 2020	#24
Really?	former9thward	Jan 2020	#90
So, you got my point.	Sonny Mirviss	Jan 2020	#93
Yep, my kids too.	FirstLight	Jan 2020	#23
I told my kids not to bring children into the world.	murielm99	Jan 2020	#33
My siblings' children	2naSalit	Jan 2020	#25
We did not have children and do not regret that.	TNNurse	Jan 2020	#29
This is not new. Many have been thinking for a long time that this is unsustainable. We cannot in	Evolve Dammit	Jan 2020	#34
Wait, how can they be parents if they have no children?	smirkymonkey	Jan 2020	#43
Lol!	cwydro	Jan 2020	#60
Sorry; married couples. My bad.	Evolve Dammit	Jan 2020	#120
No problem.	smirkymonkey	Jan 2020	#121
I have three adult daughters...	Sedona	Jan 2020	#35
As an old Boomer...	Newest Reality	Jan 2020	#36
Fallout is imminent or soon	bucolic_frolic	Jan 2020	#37
She's probably correct.	paleotn	Jan 2020	#38
Good move	CountAllVotes	Jan 2020	#39
Fertility rates have been dropping world wide for decades. Women are feeling their power and	Kurt V.	Jan 2020	#40
It's like all these different facets of the Handmaid's Tale, are	dewsgirl	Jan 2020	#56
I made the same decision back in the 70s & 80s for the same reason. I had no faith that humanity	catbyte	Jan 2020	#42
This is nothing new.	llmart	Jan 2020	#44
My friend's 30 year old son said the same thing	DesertRat	Jan 2020	#45
I never wanted children and didn't have them, and don't regret it at all.	smirkymonkey	Jan 2020	#46
You don't have to add to overpopulation	TexasBushwhacker	Jan 2020	#47
If I were 20 again	Timewas	Jan 2020	#49
My son made the same decision.	lunatica	Jan 2020	#50
I heard that in the fifties about nuclear war	spike jones	Jan 2020	#51
I decided the same in 1965.	MineralMan	Jan 2020	#53
I agree.	warmfeet	Jan 2020	#54
Smart decision.	BigmanPigman	Jan 2020	#55
Happily Childfree	cagefreesoylentgreen	Jan 2020	#57
Don't worry, plenty of people in India/Bangladesh will take their place	Baclava	Jan 2020	#58
There've been too many adults in need of parenting in my life.	Mersky	Jan 2020	#59
If I were a GenZ person, I am not sure I'd have kids, either.	PatrickforO	Jan 2020	#61
My daughter and I were talking about choices	Marthe48	Jan 2020	#62
She is smart.	MLAA	Jan 2020	#63
I'm in my 30s and haven't had children for that reason (among others)	Tiggeroshii	Jan 2020	#66
Both my 20 somethings	Andy Canuck	Jan 2020	#67
The planet doesn't need saving. It will outlast the human species by millions of years	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#68
Neither does my 32 year-old son.	ancianita	Jan 2020	#71
My husband keeps saying the wrong ones	marlakay	Jan 2020	#72
Well, she's ASSUMING she's going to have a choice about that!	Texin	Jan 2020	#73
Why would you even go there?	Bummfuzzle	Jan 2020	#84
We might not be in this situation had we, the older generation, decided not to have kids.	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#74
Some of us did just that. Not enough, apparently.	MineralMan	Jan 2020	#111
She is likely correct too.	BeckyDem	Jan 2020	#75
m kids as well	handmade34	Jan 2020	#76
No surprise...	Hulk	Jan 2020	#77
My 29 year old says the same thing🙁	rainy	Jan 2020	#78
For perspective, some 20-somethings a generation ago said the same thing because of nuclear war	JHB	Jan 2020	#79
There are a lot of people doing that	NCProgressive	Jan 2020	#81
Good	jcgoldie	Jan 2020	#85
Ditto on my 20 something	Olafjoy	Jan 2020	#87
I'll never have grandchildren from my son	Bluesaph	Jan 2020	#89
No Kids, No Regrets	Upward	Jan 2020	#91
didn't realize there were so many older people here	Apple Fritter	Jan 2020	#94
twenty-somethings are young enough to probably fall victim to the ravages of climate change	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#95
Do any of us older folks worry about the suffering our twenty-something kids are going to endure?	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#97
Climate change is a population issue.	MineralMan	Jan 2020	#113
Yes. I can see how they feel hopelessly screwed over.	milestogo	Jan 2020	#115
But the world's population will hit 8 billion in 2023.	JustABozoOnThisBus	Jan 2020	#99
Kick	ck4829	Jan 2020	#100
Her choice but she's more pessimistic than climate scientists.	Loki Liesmith	Jan 2020	#101
On average even with insurance	exboyfil	Jan 2020	#103
My younger daughter, now 33	greymattermom	Jan 2020	#105
Smart	StarryNite	Jan 2020	#112
I started asking doctors about a vasectomy at 25.	Jokerman	Jan 2020	#114
I wish the evangelical bible-thumpers down the street from me felt the same way.	jcmaine72	Jan 2020	#118
Good lord,maybe they just like kids. I have six,my body,my choice.	virgogal	Jan 2020	#126
Did you read what I wrote? They're bible-thumping nuts.	jcmaine72	Jan 2020	#128
Who is going to pay my social security?	Joe941	Jan 2020	#119
It was in 1999. . .	Collimator	Jan 2020	#127
Cold hard scientific fact has little to do with the psychology of self fulfilling prophecy...	tandem5	Jan 2020	#129
I chose not to breed...	BluNoMatterHu	Jan 2020	#130
My soon-to-be 35 year old daughter feels differently	DFW	Jan 2020	#131
Yeah, I've heard that a lot	Bradical79	Jan 2020	#132
Adopt	Bradical79	Jan 2020	#133

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