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In the discussion thread: Today a twenty-something told me that she doesn't plan to have children because of climate change. [View all]

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Mon Jan 6, 2020, 10:15 PM

Hulk (6,699 posts)

77. No surprise...

A sad future, looking at the direction we AND the world are heading.

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Today a twenty-something told me that she doesn't plan to have children because of climate change. [View all]	milestogo	Jan 2020	OP
Both my twenty-something kids feel the same way.	yardwork	Jan 2020	#1
Are you worried about the suffering and challenges your kids are going to endure?	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#102
Of course.	yardwork	Jan 2020	#104
Do you regret having them? Knowing now what their future may be?	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#106
Of course not. But my children's choices are their own.	yardwork	Jan 2020	#107
Of course you can't tell them what to do but you can say what you did.	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#108
They already know that.	yardwork	Jan 2020	#116
I've heard that too.	C_U_L8R	Jan 2020	#2
Smart woman.	Cattledog	Jan 2020	#3
I agree, smart. I made the same decision forty odd years ago.	LiberalLoner	Jan 2020	#20
The nihilism of the 17-25 year olds that I know is remarkable even to this hard Genxer.	WhiskeyGrinder	Jan 2020	#4
How is that? Isn't her decision wise if she only envisions suffering for a child she bears? nt	Blue_true	Jan 2020	#22
She's young enough herself to probably be a casualty of climate change.	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#96
Excellent point about her youth and that climate change will impact her.	Blue_true	Jan 2020	#117
Back in the day, having young ones in the family was a survival tactic.	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#122
If things get as bad as they are tracking to be, those adult children	Blue_true	Jan 2020	#123
It's the kind of life billions now live	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#124
Climate change will present exponentially more difficult challenges, even	Blue_true	Jan 2020	#125
The effects of climate change will not be uniform throughout the world	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#134
Maybe it is...	Newest Reality	Jan 2020	#32
Eventually America will only be filled with brainwashed rwnj children if we let the future scare us	dustyscamp	Jan 2020	#5
"'Let' let the future scare us"	Duppers	Jan 2020	#26
If I was diagnosed with cancer and had only a little bit of time left on this world	dustyscamp	Jan 2020	#52
Know any climate scientists?	Duppers	Jan 2020	#82
2nd thoughts	Duppers	Jan 2020	#86
If we wreck this planet, no fucking way do we have any business	Crunchy Frog	Jan 2020	#88
In the end, Earth, because it's always changing, will kill every living thing.	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#109
But would you decide to have (more) children?	robbob	Jan 2020	#110
The cold hard facts are that the effects of climate change will not be uniform around the world	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#64
I am around that age a lot and every one has made this comment.	Bummfuzzle	Jan 2020	#6
My 32yo son will remain childless.	Duppers	Jan 2020	#28
it does not take degrees to understand climate change	Skittles	Jan 2020	#41
The ones I know are working on their secondary degrees, mostly. Right.	Bummfuzzle	Jan 2020	#48
👍	Duppers	Jan 2020	#83
I decided not to when I was 11	safeinOhio	Jan 2020	#7
Ditto that. I could see this shit coming decades ago. n/t	CousinIT	Jan 2020	#14
Me too (or there about) ...	Auggie	Jan 2020	#27
I hear somewhat older childless couples among my own friends saying now that they are glad they	hlthe2b	Jan 2020	#8
On The Beach.	ret5hd	Jan 2020	#9
+1. Check it out.	yonder	Jan 2020	#10
Yep.	sheshe2	Jan 2020	#30
I said the same thing	Bev54	Jan 2020	#11
My daughter is 24 and has zero interest in kids	Takket	Jan 2020	#12
I don't want children, but when I was a twenty something I didn't know any female who didn't.	milestogo	Jan 2020	#13
Climate change is just one reason	Disaffected	Jan 2020	#15
Climate change equals	Duppers	Jan 2020	#31
True,	Disaffected	Jan 2020	#65
Both of my married sons already decided years ago that they won't reproduce.	scarletwoman	Jan 2020	#16
I've mostly felt the same way	Ahpook	Jan 2020	#69
A lot of us were saying this in the sixties and seventies ...	marble falls	Jan 2020	#17
Our 30 something daughter feels the same,	yonder	Jan 2020	#18
I'm sure	bdamomma	Jan 2020	#70
Perspective. Thank you.	yonder	Jan 2020	#80
Real estate and farm prices crashed in the 1920s	Warpy	Jan 2020	#92
Hello Warpy!!!!	CountAllVotes	Jan 2020	#98
Personally, it would be a financial choice not to have kids	sakabatou	Jan 2020	#19
Maybe she's read "The Population Bomb", by Paul Ehrlich	Sonny Mirviss	Jan 2020	#21
Just found my copy of that book	csziggy	Jan 2020	#24
Really?	former9thward	Jan 2020	#90
So, you got my point.	Sonny Mirviss	Jan 2020	#93
Yep, my kids too.	FirstLight	Jan 2020	#23
I told my kids not to bring children into the world.	murielm99	Jan 2020	#33
My siblings' children	2naSalit	Jan 2020	#25
We did not have children and do not regret that.	TNNurse	Jan 2020	#29
This is not new. Many have been thinking for a long time that this is unsustainable. We cannot in	Evolve Dammit	Jan 2020	#34
Wait, how can they be parents if they have no children?	smirkymonkey	Jan 2020	#43
Lol!	cwydro	Jan 2020	#60
Sorry; married couples. My bad.	Evolve Dammit	Jan 2020	#120
No problem.	smirkymonkey	Jan 2020	#121
I have three adult daughters...	Sedona	Jan 2020	#35
As an old Boomer...	Newest Reality	Jan 2020	#36
Fallout is imminent or soon	bucolic_frolic	Jan 2020	#37
She's probably correct.	paleotn	Jan 2020	#38
Good move	CountAllVotes	Jan 2020	#39
Fertility rates have been dropping world wide for decades. Women are feeling their power and	Kurt V.	Jan 2020	#40
It's like all these different facets of the Handmaid's Tale, are	dewsgirl	Jan 2020	#56
I made the same decision back in the 70s & 80s for the same reason. I had no faith that humanity	catbyte	Jan 2020	#42
This is nothing new.	llmart	Jan 2020	#44
My friend's 30 year old son said the same thing	DesertRat	Jan 2020	#45
I never wanted children and didn't have them, and don't regret it at all.	smirkymonkey	Jan 2020	#46
You don't have to add to overpopulation	TexasBushwhacker	Jan 2020	#47
If I were 20 again	Timewas	Jan 2020	#49
My son made the same decision.	lunatica	Jan 2020	#50
I heard that in the fifties about nuclear war	spike jones	Jan 2020	#51
I decided the same in 1965.	MineralMan	Jan 2020	#53
I agree.	warmfeet	Jan 2020	#54
Smart decision.	BigmanPigman	Jan 2020	#55
Happily Childfree	cagefreesoylentgreen	Jan 2020	#57
Don't worry, plenty of people in India/Bangladesh will take their place	Baclava	Jan 2020	#58
There've been too many adults in need of parenting in my life.	Mersky	Jan 2020	#59
If I were a GenZ person, I am not sure I'd have kids, either.	PatrickforO	Jan 2020	#61
My daughter and I were talking about choices	Marthe48	Jan 2020	#62
She is smart.	MLAA	Jan 2020	#63
I'm in my 30s and haven't had children for that reason (among others)	Tiggeroshii	Jan 2020	#66
Both my 20 somethings	Andy Canuck	Jan 2020	#67
The planet doesn't need saving. It will outlast the human species by millions of years	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#68
Neither does my 32 year-old son.	ancianita	Jan 2020	#71
My husband keeps saying the wrong ones	marlakay	Jan 2020	#72
Well, she's ASSUMING she's going to have a choice about that!	Texin	Jan 2020	#73
Why would you even go there?	Bummfuzzle	Jan 2020	#84
We might not be in this situation had we, the older generation, decided not to have kids.	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#74
Some of us did just that. Not enough, apparently.	MineralMan	Jan 2020	#111
She is likely correct too.	BeckyDem	Jan 2020	#75
m kids as well	handmade34	Jan 2020	#76
No surprise...	Hulk	Jan 2020	#77
My 29 year old says the same thing🙁	rainy	Jan 2020	#78
For perspective, some 20-somethings a generation ago said the same thing because of nuclear war	JHB	Jan 2020	#79
There are a lot of people doing that	NCProgressive	Jan 2020	#81
Good	jcgoldie	Jan 2020	#85
Ditto on my 20 something	Olafjoy	Jan 2020	#87
I'll never have grandchildren from my son	Bluesaph	Jan 2020	#89
No Kids, No Regrets	Upward	Jan 2020	#91
didn't realize there were so many older people here	Apple Fritter	Jan 2020	#94
twenty-somethings are young enough to probably fall victim to the ravages of climate change	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#95
Do any of us older folks worry about the suffering our twenty-something kids are going to endure?	Kaleva	Jan 2020	#97
Climate change is a population issue.	MineralMan	Jan 2020	#113
Yes. I can see how they feel hopelessly screwed over.	milestogo	Jan 2020	#115
But the world's population will hit 8 billion in 2023.	JustABozoOnThisBus	Jan 2020	#99
Kick	ck4829	Jan 2020	#100
Her choice but she's more pessimistic than climate scientists.	Loki Liesmith	Jan 2020	#101
On average even with insurance	exboyfil	Jan 2020	#103
My younger daughter, now 33	greymattermom	Jan 2020	#105
Smart	StarryNite	Jan 2020	#112
I started asking doctors about a vasectomy at 25.	Jokerman	Jan 2020	#114
I wish the evangelical bible-thumpers down the street from me felt the same way.	jcmaine72	Jan 2020	#118
Good lord,maybe they just like kids. I have six,my body,my choice.	virgogal	Jan 2020	#126
Did you read what I wrote? They're bible-thumping nuts.	jcmaine72	Jan 2020	#128
Who is going to pay my social security?	Joe941	Jan 2020	#119
It was in 1999. . .	Collimator	Jan 2020	#127
Cold hard scientific fact has little to do with the psychology of self fulfilling prophecy...	tandem5	Jan 2020	#129
I chose not to breed...	BluNoMatterHu	Jan 2020	#130
My soon-to-be 35 year old daughter feels differently	DFW	Jan 2020	#131
Yeah, I've heard that a lot	Bradical79	Jan 2020	#132
Adopt	Bradical79	Jan 2020	#133

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