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LizBeth

(9,952 posts) Thu Mar 5, 2020, 03:15 PM Mar 2020

I have someone arguing Trump has been better for women, blacks, poor last 3 yrs than Obama [View all]

in all 8 yrs. I googled and saw headline and seeing it is about the economy. Can someone help who is in the know so I do not have to do the research. I am assuming they are talking about the economy. Obama walked in to disaster. Took time to start mending. Growth was slow but progressively moved upward. Trump came in and adopted Obama economy continued to grow giving Trump the ability to make this statement. Is this correct?

Also, I read Trump is going after sanctuary cities. That is not a plus on his side.

He has certainly hurt ACA which is not a win for poor.

The racism and hate certainly hurts our women, gays and POC.

Any info would be appreciated.

Edit to add: When I read that from him I told him, DONE. Done done done. I was done. I often get there in conversation with him. But he says, facts, done because of facts and there are others reading my feed that are not so informed. Many Republicans that do not like or cannot stomach Trump but can vote Biden. This is for the other readers. It is not for this man. Long ago, I relegated him to, done.

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I have someone arguing Trump has been better for women, blacks, poor last 3 yrs than Obama [View all] LizBeth Mar 2020 OP

Was that Cornell West you were talking with? still_one Mar 2020 #1

+1000 JustAnotherGen Mar 2020 #3

Ah, left leaning Libertarian old white man that thinks white men are being picked on but is all in LizBeth Mar 2020 #4

I was making a joke as evidenced by the emoji i used, definitely not directed against the still_one Mar 2020 #19

I totally got that. ;) LizBeth Mar 2020 #20

Personally i avoid those discussions with those type of folks, but if i did engage I would ask him still_one Mar 2020 #23

Good points. Thank you. I already have quite a bit to put in this post I will be making later. LizBeth Mar 2020 #26

+++ still_one Mar 2020 #36

+1, uponit7771 Mar 2020 #25

don't waste your time. no matter what links you provide... Javaman Mar 2020 #2

It is nto for him. It is for other readers who are not informed. I like to put out truth so I LizBeth Mar 2020 #7

good point. Cheers. :) nt Javaman Mar 2020 #9

Do not argue with cultists. tavernier Mar 2020 #5

Your "someone" needs medical help or a hearing aid. You won't have to look far to see he/she is Frustratedlady Mar 2020 #6

Ask them to discuss the economy Trump inherited vice the economy Obama inherited... SKKY Mar 2020 #8

Ask them who they think would be a good replacement for Trump jmbar2 Mar 2020 #10

In terms of energizing the base and weaponizing opposition, then yea. nt Xipe Totec Mar 2020 #11

Parrotting the orange orangutang himself world wide wally Mar 2020 #12

Just saying that because the economy is overall *better* and everybody is doing *better* Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2020 #13

That is why I am looking for info. When I glanced at his statement I went immediately to anger LizBeth Mar 2020 #16

They're sniffing their own farts Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2020 #14

Trump-bots are stuck on the stock market gratuitous Mar 2020 #15

Perfect. Thank you. This is what I am looking for and a little copy and paste works for me. LizBeth Mar 2020 #17

Did the person you were arguing with back up their claim with any facts? subterranean Mar 2020 #18

No, he did not offer facts. I wanted to educate myself a little before asking for that. LizBeth Mar 2020 #21

Again, rereading, thank you. I can copy and paste the whole thing, lol LizBeth Mar 2020 #22

my grandmother used to say she wished 'stupid were painful' RT Atlanta Mar 2020 #24

Truth. I might even steal that one. Lol LizBeth Mar 2020 #27

Is this person female, black, or poor? TygrBright Mar 2020 #28

Old white man on board with white men picked on most. That is the first response I gave. LizBeth Mar 2020 #29

A steaming pile of shit. Here's proof: Downtown Hound Mar 2020 #30

TY! LizBeth Mar 2020 #33

This twitter thread has some good economic data - not by race NewJeffCT Mar 2020 #31

Living in a blue state where we are getting the minimum wage increase, I was going to argue this. LizBeth Mar 2020 #34

Chris Lu on Twitter has some good economic info as well NewJeffCT Mar 2020 #38

ask them about the deficit... stillcool Mar 2020 #32

Totally. I am going to have to gather and make it concise. You guys are the best. LizBeth Mar 2020 #35

I'll bet your someone is a middle income, white male. sinkingfeeling Mar 2020 #37

And a little bit of a trust fund, hasn't worked in at least two decades. LizBeth Mar 2020 #39

I always love how they speak for women, POC, and the poor. sinkingfeeling Mar 2020 #40

Right. LizBeth Mar 2020 #41

Never argue with an idiot. GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #42

Ha ha, that is cute. LizBeth Mar 2020 #43