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bucolic_frolic

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172. Should prompt quite a civil suit

Mon May 4, 2020, 02:33 PM

May 2020

I'm no lawyer ..... wrongful death? 25 more working years plus retirement income taken from that family when they need it most. That ought to be worth something and should bankrupt the perpetrators.

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Michigan security guard shot, killed after asking customer to cover face. [View all] RandySF May 2020 OP

A Guy Got Killed For Doing His Job?? ProfessorGAC May 2020 #1

OMG... hlthe2b May 2020 #2

Those aren't mere "armed protestors." They're fucking DOMESTIC TERRORISTS! calimary May 2020 #45

Now they're murderers. lastlib May 2020 #59

'Very good/fine people' is the GOP term. keithbvadu2 May 2020 #94

No more or less than they ever were quakerboy May 2020 #152

First degree pre-meditated murder wnylib May 2020 #154

Assuming the rumors are true about the cause quakerboy May 2020 #178

Yes they Rebl2 May 2020 #106

You nailed it! BComplex May 2020 #160

Except now that they are caught, we know the suspects had nothing at all to do with that. AtheistCrusader May 2020 #228

What are you talking about? BComplex May 2020 #232

The shooter had nothing to do with the armed protests. AtheistCrusader May 2020 #233

He may not have been PRESENT at the protests, but he's one of their kind. BComplex May 2020 #236

What leads you to the conclusion sarisataka May 2020 #237

The behavior. eom BComplex May 2020 #238

Felon in posession of a gun? AtheistCrusader May 2020 #240

I still do not understand sarisataka May 2020 #241

Based on what? AtheistCrusader May 2020 #239

We might want to wait for an investigation ... JustABozoOnThisBus May 2020 #141

But maybe inspired by them. wnylib May 2020 #155

My bet is, not even that. JustABozoOnThisBus May 2020 #169

Yes, it was going to happen sooner or later. TrishaJ May 2020 #174

omg Demovictory9 May 2020 #3

Very unfortunately, Vanilla Isis is not just a funny name for these Trump terrorists. n/t blitzen May 2020 #4

Why do you presume he's white? Jake Stern May 2020 #28

Why do you presume he's not? Hekate May 2020 #43

The story isn't even confirmed jberryhill May 2020 #51

Because the content of the OP says it was. And we all are all off and running, in good DU fashion. Hekate May 2020 #55

I guess I'm weird jberryhill May 2020 #58

Aha! Well you did more than I, then. I reflexively detest Twit as a "news" source anyway. nt Hekate May 2020 #60

You wanna see something really weird? jberryhill May 2020 #115

https://www.abc12.com/content/news/MSP-Security-guard-shot--killed-at-Flint-Family-Dollar-store-5701 LiberalArkie May 2020 #61

Where is the part about the face mask? jberryhill May 2020 #65

https://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/wife-says-flint-dollar-store-security-guard-killed-over- LiberalArkie May 2020 #88

That is discussed above jberryhill May 2020 #90

No shit. cwydro May 2020 #108

No LeftInTX May 2020 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author muriel_volestrangler May 2020 #139

"UPDATE: 3 charged with murder of Family Dollar security guard over face mask dispute" SharonAnn May 2020 #194

The guard is dead. The police are investigating as ti whether he was shot over a mask. LiberalArkie May 2020 #66

They are investigating social media reports of that jberryhill May 2020 #68

What I got the PD and others say the guard is dead. No suspects yet but they are investigating that LiberalArkie May 2020 #74

Well, no. cwydro May 2020 #224

Police are investigating the claim kcr May 2020 #134

Yes, they saw it on social media and are looking into it jberryhill May 2020 #143

Then why did the police look into it? kcr May 2020 #193

Ah, they caught the white Trump supporting reopen protesters in question? jberryhill May 2020 #196

You saw my non-existent post about white trump supporters? kcr May 2020 #198

No, but what is the point? jberryhill May 2020 #200

No one needed to be psychic regarding the masks kcr May 2020 #201

" multiple articles stated the police were investigating whether that was a reason" jberryhill May 2020 #202

I'm not talking about the Trump argument kcr May 2020 #203

By the time kcr posted #134, the NYT was reporting the wife said it was about masks muriel_volestrangler May 2020 #204

I'm not taking anything out on anyone jberryhill May 2020 #205

How likely is it that her only source is Twitter? kcr May 2020 #206

You're doing a damn good online impression of taking it out on them muriel_volestrangler May 2020 #207

Because Flint is majority AA and about 25% white? Recursion May 2020 #137

Wrong. It's 37.8 kcr May 2020 #195

Where did you get these percentages again? Like, is there an actual source or is this AtheistCrusader May 2020 #229

My answer is right below yours. Hekate May 2020 #235

Observation of American news reporting.... Hekate May 2020 #234

Good question. cwydro May 2020 #111

This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers May 2020 #133

... sarisataka May 2020 #176

So what do you say now? nt dware May 2020 #192

That is really racist ripcord May 2020 #199

Uh? Racist against AA's? Duppers May 2020 #214

This was directed at the deleted comment ripcord May 2020 #226

Yep. Forgot to delete this one too. Duppers May 2020 #231

Fucking assholes! Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #5

Both enraging and heartbreaking. He the beloved father of 10 kids. stuffmatters May 2020 #208

One of Trump's very good people? BeyondGeography May 2020 #6

You beat me too it. sellitman May 2020 #64

"These are good people - they're just angry - work with them..." MyOwnPeace May 2020 #7

I lay this at trump's feet handmade34 May 2020 #8

Putin is pulling these people's chains. Wearing a mask is the same as losing my 2nd amendment.... Botany May 2020 #9

I hope she spends the rest of her life rotting in prison. smirkymonkey May 2020 #10

Even worse, she went and got someone else to do it. Jamastiene May 2020 #22

... CatWoman May 2020 #27

I don't see anything in the article itself that suggests LisaL May 2020 #11

This article says it was a face mask argument. blitzen May 2020 #16

Actually it says claims are being made on social media that it was over a mask. LisaL May 2020 #21

Info from Flint news mfcorey1 May 2020 #159

No it doesn't. jberryhill May 2020 #53

What's your point here ? Haggis for Breakfast May 2020 #77

My point is that I'd like to know if the story is true or not jberryhill May 2020 #85

I'm sure his widow and eight children will be pleased Haggis for Breakfast May 2020 #87

The only reason this is of voyeuristic interest to DU jberryhill May 2020 #92

And I don't understand your LACK of even a scintilla of compassion. Haggis for Breakfast May 2020 #93

Obviously, you need to direct that to the police jberryhill May 2020 #98

Just because you and I disagree on this point Haggis for Breakfast May 2020 #101

What is it that we "disagree" about? jberryhill May 2020 #105

What is absolutely certain is that a provider of NINE people, not including himself, is dead. Eyeball_Kid May 2020 #117

It is unknown why the shooting occurred jberryhill May 2020 #119

Spare a scintilla for this person? jberryhill May 2020 #120

Since when does compassion Mariana May 2020 #147

You should scold the police.... jberryhill May 2020 #95

Well, NOW we know it was TRUE. Haggis for Breakfast May 2020 #216

Slain Family Dollar security guard mourned at candlelight vigil mfcorey1 May 2020 #157

Also does not confirm that it was over the mask policy jberryhill May 2020 #162

Good point. Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #23

Yeah. I don't see that either jberryhill May 2020 #35

GOP need to be in prison, all of them Eliot Rosewater May 2020 #12

I'm gonna go out on a limb and speculate he's not necessarily gop. cwydro May 2020 #109

Did they catch the guy? BlueLucy May 2020 #13

Nope. He run off. LisaL May 2020 #14

I found this on twitter. BlueLucy May 2020 #42

Can't find any articles saying the suspect was caught. LisaL May 2020 #49

...AND there they go. Jamastiene May 2020 #15

It is murder and it sounds like they planned it so that would make dware May 2020 #24

Conspiracy too bucolic_frolic May 2020 #30

Yes, that too. nt dware May 2020 #32

A real pos these right-wingers are rockfordfile May 2020 #17

How do you know it's a right winger? cwydro May 2020 #110

There is nothing about a mask in the abc link,just from a Tweet. virgogal May 2020 #18

+1 jberryhill May 2020 #38

Careful, you'll be accused of lacking compassion Mariana May 2020 #144

Fox-Limbaugh-trumPutin terrorists. Hermit-The-Prog May 2020 #19

The dehumanizing of anyone they deem under them. ffr May 2020 #20

Send them to prison, elleng May 2020 #25

There is a privileged, criminally insane faction breeding in America... Guilded Lilly May 2020 #26

"evil, hate-drenched, armed, ignorant, arrogant white male stupidity" jberryhill May 2020 #187

Well the Security Guard was liberated from life malaise May 2020 #29

God damn it Gov Whitmer. roamer65 May 2020 #31

Yeah if the protesters had been minorities said National Guard would have used deadly force 47of74 May 2020 #122

THIS. roamer65 May 2020 #138

That is one thing that is wrong with this country, seriously wrong raccoon May 2020 #33

It's crazy. Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #40

Stochastic Terrorism. and murder. via trump. NRaleighLiberal May 2020 #34

What makes you believe it was over a mask? jberryhill May 2020 #36

Well, this headline does. Although the article itself says that aspect is being investigated. blitzen May 2020 #44

You see how this works? jberryhill May 2020 #48

Yes, I see that clearly. n/t blitzen May 2020 #50

The New York Times is now saying it spoke to his wife, who said it was over a mask muriel_volestrangler May 2020 #63

It would be interesting to know how she knows that jberryhill May 2020 #67

It is possible that people at the store would talk to his widow muriel_volestrangler May 2020 #72

Well, hopefully it gets sorted out jberryhill May 2020 #75

What also indicates caution is the police description of the suspect - just one muriel_volestrangler May 2020 #80

What is your theory? LiberalLovinLug May 2020 #166

My theory is that part of the story is unconfirmed jberryhill May 2020 #168

Fair enough LiberalLovinLug May 2020 #173

It's not about any legal principle jberryhill May 2020 #184

Well they're not white suprematists I guess LiberalLovinLug May 2020 #217

Now her daddy is going to jail, where he won't have any control over exposure to Covid-19 Baitball Blogger May 2020 #37

If it was over a mask requirement, then it is as much a Covid death as any other Covid death. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2020 #39

Trump loves making terrorists out of his Cultish followers... NotHardly May 2020 #41

Taken to the Hague? dware May 2020 #46

And what army is going to accomplish that? reACTIONary May 2020 #123

His blood is all over Trump. nt ooky May 2020 #47

More blood on Trump's hands Mickju May 2020 #52

Good lord,go to the link...it has nothing to do with masks..or Trump. virgogal May 2020 #62

It's not confirmed jberryhill May 2020 #71

Yeah. warmfeet May 2020 #54

....... turbinetree May 2020 #56

That's what comes from constant capitulation Crunchy Frog May 2020 #57

Detroit news article whistler162 May 2020 #69

You'd think someone at the store would have told police. jberryhill May 2020 #73

It was only a matter of time, unfortunately! pazzyanne May 2020 #70

Holy FUCK mindfulNJ May 2020 #76

Is the story true? Ptah May 2020 #78

There is a man dead who was shot in the head. pazzyanne May 2020 #81

I don't see any other facts. Ptah May 2020 #82

Am I arguing? pazzyanne May 2020 #84

OMG! These people are nuts. Hope they put both away for life. sinkingfeeling May 2020 #79

There are no words to describe this..... omg secondwind May 2020 #83

The story linked to in the tweet does not mention a mask, but this link does: Sloumeau May 2020 #86

Circular reasoning jberryhill May 2020 #89

This article says male suspects (plural) fled the scene after the shooting Kaleva May 2020 #91

This Calvin Munerlyn, I wonder? Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #100

Most likely!. His nickname was Duper. Kaleva May 2020 #103

Must be him. Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #104

Post removed Post removed May 2020 #121

I work the registers at an essential business and in 4 yrs I have never seen this level of nastiness Cassidy May 2020 #96

Call them what they are relayerbob May 2020 #97

The detroitnews.com blakstoneranger May 2020 #99

Detroit News says police are investigating claims on social media the shooting was because of a mask Kaleva May 2020 #102

Forget it, jberryhill; it's Chinatown. mahatmakanejeeves May 2020 #142

C'mon trump, defend these pieces of shit Blue Owl May 2020 #107

I think Trump will not defend the shooter here. JustABozoOnThisBus May 2020 #171

This happened sooner than I expected... we all knew it was just a matter of time liberalla May 2020 #113

I didn't realize this was happening bucolic_frolic May 2020 #114

NOW will they lock them.up & charge with domestic terrorism? SheltieLover May 2020 #116

Maybe we ought to wait till we find out who the perps actually are. Kaleva May 2020 #124

You're wasting your time. Ace Rothstein May 2020 #126

Should have seen it when the Jazmine Barnes case was in the news Jake Stern May 2020 #131

The Duke Lacrosse Team incident was epic jberryhill May 2020 #146

The important thing is tp pat oneself on the back at the expense of others LanternWaste May 2020 #225

This thread is depressing. Celerity May 2020 #140

Why exactly does it matter who they are? ripcord May 2020 #211

What is your opinion of the others who have been murdered in Flint recently? Kaleva May 2020 #212

Now will you admit that this had absolutely nothing to do with the protesters? dware May 2020 #215

Okay, folks, another angle Leith May 2020 #118

I think you are right. The murder took place in a high crime area of Flint Kaleva May 2020 #125

I saw the address in an article on the internet Leith May 2020 #132

That's a huge parking lot for a Family Dollar. What was it earlier? A restaurant? NT mahatmakanejeeves May 2020 #145

Sorry, I don't remember Leith May 2020 #164

The shooter sounds like he's on the younger side LeftInTX May 2020 #136

ChickenShit Cowardly trump POS.. I hope they catch the MF Cha May 2020 #127

News report said that there was more then one male suspect who fled the scene Kaleva May 2020 #128

Cowardly Murderous Chickenshits. Cha May 2020 #129

Red Lies Matter Renew Deal May 2020 #130

Sounds like the person who murdered the security guard was fairly young LeftInTX May 2020 #135

I hope the security tapes are Scarsdale May 2020 #148

The suspects were described as males Kaleva May 2020 #149

Yep, while there seem to be many rumors on social media, I haven't seen one LisaL May 2020 #150

Reading the news articles, I suspect the shooter will turn out to be a young black male.. Kaleva May 2020 #151

Family mourns loss of security guard they say was shot and killed at Family Dollar IronLionZion May 2020 #153

We have an epidemic of untreated mental illness in this country dlk May 2020 #156

Link to original story DBoon May 2020 #158

Here is a local news report ChoosenWisely May 2020 #161

Should prompt quite a civil suit bucolic_frolic May 2020 #172

Perps very likely lived in Section 8 housing. Doubt they have much money. Kaleva May 2020 #210

Wife says... security guard killed over face mask dispute scipan May 2020 #163

Neo Nazi's On Parade colsohlibgal May 2020 #165

Black Nazis? MosheFeingold May 2020 #186

I knew this was coming after I read this story earlier. LudwigPastorius May 2020 #167

Trump did this. nt SunSeeker May 2020 #170

3 charged with murder of Family Dollar security guard over face mask dispute sarisataka May 2020 #175

Thank you Leith May 2020 #177

You were spot on sarisataka May 2020 #180

Seem like neo-Nazis to me. RhodeIslandOne May 2020 #179

Do you suppose if we review pictures from the protest sarisataka May 2020 #181

People need to wake up that there are folks of all races that hate "authority".... RhodeIslandOne May 2020 #182

Very true sarisataka May 2020 #183

They generally don't express that hate in the company of each other, though jberryhill May 2020 #188

There are also people with remarkable fragile senses of pride... jberryhill May 2020 #185

so much utter fail on this thread, it was/is shambolic Celerity May 2020 #189

+1 ProfessorGAC May 2020 #190

People here will never learn. Ace Rothstein May 2020 #197

The sad thing is every time this happen the reponse here is the same ripcord May 2020 #227

Interesting how quite this thread got Revanchist May 2020 #191

Oh, that's because you're in the wrong thread kcr May 2020 #209

One person speculated that but several suggested the perps were Trump supporters. Kaleva May 2020 #218

Woosh kcr May 2020 #222

Look, just because the suspects aren't white doesn't mean hughee99 May 2020 #213

This story will quickly fade now that it's been determined to be a black on black crime. Kaleva May 2020 #219

It could still be trump supporters...... Fla_Democrat May 2020 #220

Yes it will. cwydro May 2020 #223

I both hate and love this post. AtheistCrusader May 2020 #230

I actually feel the same way about it. n/t hughee99 May 2020 #242

Holy shit. Tipperary May 2020 #221

Woman arraigned in killing of Flint Family Dollar security guard over coronavirus mask MichMan May 2020 #243