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StarfishSaver

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72. No - he gets a different Secret Service with different agents

Wed Dec 30, 2020, 05:37 PM

Dec 2020

As president, he's guarded by the Presidential Protective Detail (PPD). As a former president, he gets a former president detail, a much lower degree of protection with many fewer and different agents. FPOTUS detail includes agents who are either senior agents who were formerly on PPD and close to retirement or younger agents hoping to work their way up from the field office to PPD. It's just a few of them, nothing even remotely like what he's used to - even presidential candidates get a much higher degree of protection than former presidents.

At noon on 1/20/21, his PPD detail signs off and turns him over to the scaled down former president detail. Buh-bye limo, motorcade, metal detectors, post standers, etc. He gets a few agents and a couple of SUVs.

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Trump might fly Air Force One to a rally in Florida on Inauguration Day, [View all] LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2020 OP

It's only AF1 when the president is aboard. cwydro Dec 2020 #1

This. Period. Full Stop. aquamarina Dec 2020 #10

True. Trump would also not have authority to use government property. LiberalFighter Dec 2020 #51

Biden should make an order and deny Trump ASAP StClone Dec 2020 #73

:) No. It's then just an airplane and ex-presidents always fly away. Hortensis Dec 2020 #129

Generally they helicopter to Andrews I thought...and he can take a different plan. After Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #138

If Velveeta Voldemort is on board when Biden finish the outh.... Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2020 #18

I'd rather it turned into a pumpkin lol. cwydro Dec 2020 #20

Should formally be referred to Beelzebub 1. calimary Dec 2020 #66

Screw the parachute! Doreen Dec 2020 #80

From this point forward........ DENVERPOPS Dec 2020 #115

Or Harrison Ford, of course. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2020 #22

Well, AF1 could stand for... Yavin4 Dec 2020 #59

This is remarkably appropriate. CaptainTruth Dec 2020 #81

I caught a blip a week or so ago that he could not use them within 24 hours of the LiberalArkie Dec 2020 #88

Nope, the former President usually takes off from the Capitol Plaza via helicopter bottomofthehill Dec 2020 #103

I knew that happened, Maybe it is that he can not do a personal trip. LiberalArkie Dec 2020 #106

You are correct. Hangingon Dec 2020 #137

It would be funny to see SAM2800 taxi away from a Trump Rally bottomofthehill Dec 2020 #139

Exactly. Its not the plane itself, its only called that when the President is aboard Baclava Dec 2020 #120

Charge him with the expense of flying the airplane back to DC. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2020 #2

Maybe arrest him for stealing it if he keeps it after noon? rurallib Dec 2020 #5

Or leave his orange ass in Florida and retrieve the plane. nolabear Dec 2020 #47

Exactly... A one way trip. nt reACTIONary Dec 2020 #84

Yes...like he wanted to charge Comey when he fired him while he was in California. nt iluvtennis Dec 2020 #76

He'd better land before noon. StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #3

Get Off My Plane... sheshe2 Dec 2020 #7

Lol grantcart Dec 2020 #85

Hey, grantcart... sheshe2 Dec 2020 #96

If not, the pilot will change call sign mid flight. Did it w/Nixon, nt okaawhatever Dec 2020 #83

Anything that humiliates tRump is okay with me. Polly Hennessey Dec 2020 #4

What about the FOOTBALL? Captain Zero Dec 2020 #6

If anyone could throw an interception as the clock ran out... n/t Harker Dec 2020 #11

I would imagine the codes in the football will Mr.Bill Dec 2020 #13

Otherwise he'd sell the codes to Putin if he hasn't already. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2020 #49

The codes change the instant Biden is sworn in. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2020 #54

I sincerely hope you are correct. Let's hope we make it to 1/20/21. No hope for Orange Man 666. nt Evolve Dammit Dec 2020 #93

I'll bet they changed them a long time ago. WinstonSmith4740 Dec 2020 #116

After noon, the officer who carries the football will no longer take Trump's orders. localroger Dec 2020 #23

But that officer will be 1,000 miles away from President Biden. TheBlackAdder Dec 2020 #37

The president has several military aides with the codes. One of them will be with Biden StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #40

There are a number of officers who carry the "football." The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2020 #50

I would say destroying the codes is vital even if they are old or retired. LiberalFighter Dec 2020 #55

I'm sure that's done routinely. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2020 #58

And I'm sure you would hope you are half kidding but know in your heart LiberalFighter Dec 2020 #61

There is no half kidding........ DENVERPOPS Dec 2020 #123

This is interesting: There is supposed to be a nuclear briefing just before the inauguration. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2020 #122

Whatever Biden does, he has to DO SOMETHING. grumpyduck Dec 2020 #8

True. Former reality TV host is accurate. wnylib Dec 2020 #67

I hope the jet blast musses his hair. Harker Dec 2020 #9

it's only a split screen moment if the media cover it. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2020 #12

Yup. EarthFirst Dec 2020 #15

I rejoice daily in our decision to stop watching TV 11 yrs ago NRaleighLiberal Dec 2020 #17

I want to see a scene like this soooooooooo bad. jaxexpat Dec 2020 #44

Stranded like all those magas in that Omaha rally... movingviolation Dec 2020 #57

Precisely jaxexpat Dec 2020 #135

As soon as AF1 is under Biden's control, he needs to order it swept for Russian bugs. Efilroft Sul Dec 2020 #14

"This is your Captain....." MyOwnPeace Dec 2020 #16

Except -- Just like the White House wnylib Dec 2020 #71

Well, MyOwnPeace Dec 2020 #95

I want the good guy to keep on living. wnylib Dec 2020 #100

😂 Love this!😂 ✈ 🚌 🚓 montana_hazeleyes Dec 2020 #121

Pretty sure that at noon EST on 1/20/2021 it becomes Special Air Mission 28000. OilemFirchen Dec 2020 #19

This. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2020 #60

The base will keep feeding this fucking MONSTER for four years IF bluestarone Dec 2020 #21

a one way trip for the psychopath. Javaman Dec 2020 #24

I like the idea of diverting it to New York. chriscan64 Dec 2020 #25

Not sure LGA has runways lone enough for a 747-400... regnaD kciN Dec 2020 #48

You're right. chriscan64 Dec 2020 #64

The President's pilots can land that beast in a cow pasture! Mopar151 Dec 2020 #102

They can land on the New York Thruway, as far as I'm concerned. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2020 #74

Here's the thing about the plane: scarletwoman Dec 2020 #26

Once it drops him off, it will deadhead back to DC. StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #41

I imaging there will be rejoicing by many permanent WH staff. scarletwoman Dec 2020 #52

No - he gets a different Secret Service with different agents StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #72

Cool, thank you! Lower degree of protection - works for me! scarletwoman Dec 2020 #101

Trump has demanded the same level of Secret Service protection he gets now. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2020 #131

I'm not so sure about that - apparently some Secret Service agents are trumpers. See below: scarletwoman Dec 2020 #134

I don't believe this will happen because Trump's family will stop it. Stuart G Dec 2020 #27

They haven't stopped him from anything so far Bev54 Dec 2020 #109

Hope trump arranges transportation home. brush Dec 2020 #28

golf cart? nt Grasswire2 Dec 2020 #36

Love it! scarletwoman Dec 2020 #56

Biden should sent Trump a crisp message reminding him that the moment he (Biden) is sworn in... Girard442 Dec 2020 #29

Like he was a child: "Here are your choices..." CTyankee Dec 2020 #35

Go fuck yourself Donny you fat piece of shit Blue Owl Dec 2020 #30

BTW - regarding your Plan B: scarletwoman Dec 2020 #31

the pilots should tell him to go fuck himself.......... Takket Dec 2020 #32

It's only Air Force one until noon January 20 if he is aboard. liberal N proud Dec 2020 #33

correct . it becomes a sam flight with the callsign of sam 2000 if i remember correctly. AllaN01Bear Dec 2020 #92

We all need to STOP talking about him and his. Stop making him in any way important. Srkdqltr Dec 2020 #34

Exactly...post after post on DU about what Trump is doing.. HipChick Dec 2020 #42

bingo. thank you. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2020 #45

Be it... Newest Reality Dec 2020 #90

Perhaps that would be a good day to ground it for Covid Disinfection. Siwsan Dec 2020 #38

If he is on it and in the air at noon whopis01 Dec 2020 #39

at 12:01 biden should order th eplane ot land at teh nearest airport rdking647 Dec 2020 #43

Any network that split screens the inauguration mcar Dec 2020 #46

Fox is likely to do it, but they're already being vilified. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2020 #53

I don't know about that rupert has dumped dotard, publicly Thekaspervote Dec 2020 #69

Fly him around until 12:01 then... Politicalgolfer Dec 2020 #62

Yep. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2020 #68

At 12:01 The Animator Dec 2020 #63

Maybe it could be decorated especially for that last flight. trusty elf Dec 2020 #65

And if the rally really is held on a base, Trump should be arrested for trespassing as soon as Biden Rabrrrrrr Dec 2020 #70

The networks shouldn't provide a split screen - don't feed the narcissist. nt iluvtennis Dec 2020 #75

Dumb greenjar_01 Dec 2020 #77

Rally for WHAT?! Dukkha Dec 2020 #78

Several scenarios DFW Dec 2020 #79

Trump will still have his "ex president" secret service detachment and all the vehicles that go with LiberalArkie Dec 2020 #112

Just a few agents and two SUVs StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #128

Always the asshole. lpbk2713 Dec 2020 #82

I vote for Plan A, but... reACTIONary Dec 2020 #86

Take the fucking keys when it lands, deep clean the aircraft and let it sit for a week or so.... Evolve Dammit Dec 2020 #87

Oh and then take the Diet Coke dispenser and any Russian hookers you find on board and quarantine. Evolve Dammit Dec 2020 #91

if he does @ noon evrything turns back into pumpkins . the plane , the limos , the motor cade AllaN01Bear Dec 2020 #89

I like your plan B. George II Dec 2020 #94

Get him an Uber and call it good. gldstwmn Dec 2020 #97

He says all kinds .... paleotn Dec 2020 #98

Here's what will happen to him: absolutely nothing Orrex Dec 2020 #99

It's only 'Air Force One' if a president is on it left-of-center2012 Dec 2020 #104

If any network splits screens the inauguration I'll never watch them again. Don't care who they are TeamPooka Dec 2020 #105

I figured he'd be in Moscow on Inauguration Day. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #107

Let him hitchhike FakeNoose Dec 2020 #108

Other retiring presidents had the courtesy to help with a smooth transition Retrograde Dec 2020 #110

Wait a minute. That should be illegal. The only official business that day is the inauguration in Nitram Dec 2020 #111

Joe wouldn't do that, though birdographer Dec 2020 #113

Immediately land AF1 at noon and kick him off** MRDAWG Dec 2020 #114

Why land? n/t LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2020 #132

Lordy, they put this stuff out just to get everyone's panties in a twist. Fla Dem Dec 2020 #117

It sickens me to see him use AF1 or any of the symbols of the presidency as props. Peregrine Took Dec 2020 #118

I figure he gets one free SAM flight home (or wherever) shortly after the inauguration struggle4progress Dec 2020 #119

The ex-president's flight home is extended as a courtesy by the new president. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2020 #133

Sadly, it is a very, very expensive airplane, and will carrying at least 20 innocent civilians. BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #124

He won't get one the official supped up planes, he get one they use for short flights. Fla Dem Dec 2020 #136

Good place for him Warpy Dec 2020 #125

For sure DENVERPOPS Dec 2020 #126

Send him the bill. BlueIdaho Dec 2020 #127

I agree with your "solution" A HERETIC I AM Dec 2020 #130