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JoanofArgh

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Tue Jun 15, 2021, 12:24 PM Jun 2021

U.S. GDP is 20.93 trillion. Russian GDP is 1.7 trillion. Why are we messing around w/ Putin at all? [View all]

Is it the nuclear weapons? We give him way too much attention and he loves it. He basks in it. The press can't stop talking about him.


Interesting exchange between Michael McCaul and Gary Kasparov.



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Should the Russian president opt instead to continue invading countries, mounting hacking and disinformation campaigns, and arresting innocent Russians and Americans, it will be clear that he, not Biden, is responsible for confrontation with the United States. 2/

Biden is also right to try to work with the Kremlin on a limited agenda of mutual interest, particularly on arms control. Even during tense moments of the Cold War, U.S. presidents saw the wisdom in cooperating with their Soviet counterparts to reduce the risk of nuclear war. 3/


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Mike, is this tweet from 2007?! This is what the West has been saying for 14 years. "If Putin keeps doing all these terrible things, THEN.." and he keeps doing them. It's 2021, everyone knows what Putin is.

Every new US administration doesn't press the reset button, they press the snooze button. Putin doesn't reset, he doesn't change, and he won't until someone stands up to him

Putin goes through the same motions with every new democratic leader. They get to act tough for a moment; he gets to stay in power and keep looting Russia, attacking the world order, and his mafia pals live like tsars--in the free world of course.

What are these "democratic forces" to protect in Putin's Russia, in 2021? You can't support democracy and empower the dictator killing it at the same time. Meet Zelensky & Tsikhanouskaya. Meet Nemtsov & Navalny's families. Not their assailant.




I'm not an expert in foreign policy and I suppose there are reasons but I really hate that we're meeting with Putin at all.

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Russia's pretty much a rogue state in a world all on its own ansible Jun 2021 #1
My guess: Putin has dossiers on everyone. no_hypocrisy Jun 2021 #2
That, and nukes. nt GoCubsGo Jun 2021 #3
And it would take A LOT to make J. Edgar envious, lol. JoanofArgh Jun 2021 #7
Putin has the potential to cause a lot of havoc if he tries to re-establish Russia's influence ... Jim__ Jun 2021 #4
Good point. I just wish we could do it quietly so the attention's not all on him. JoanofArgh Jun 2021 #9
Largest country in land mass + huge nuclear arsenal NCDem47 Jun 2021 #5
More good points. I just hate that the press is giving him so much attention, which he loves, after JoanofArgh Jun 2021 #11
This point is one I have pushed StClone Jun 2021 #6
Agree. JoanofArgh Jun 2021 #12
Russia provides oil to Europe cally Jun 2021 #8
Nukes, energy supply to the EU, willingness to invade, threaten and murder . . . hatrack Jun 2021 #10
The nukes. GoodRaisin Jun 2021 #13
GDP of $20Trillion? Is that true? Ron Green Jun 2021 #14
The US has been an economic powerhouse since the late 19th and for sure, the 20th centuries. Caliman73 Jun 2021 #16
Sounds like it's time for some CRT, Ron Green Jun 2021 #18
Definitely. Caliman73 Jun 2021 #22
GDP alone, does not denote one's power in the world. Caliman73 Jun 2021 #15
It's the nukes, their crumbling infrastructure, energy and China Buckeyeblue Jun 2021 #17
That's It! ProfessorGAC Jun 2021 #20
Because they won't let our banks and corporations take over their economy? Klaralven Jun 2021 #19
This was Germany's relative GDP at the time they invaded Europe uponit7771 Jun 2021 #21
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