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Hugh_Lebowski

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5. People in charge of intelligence who failed to realize that the Afghani forces would run like scared

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 08:36 PM

Aug 2021

kittens the second the Taliban showed up and looked at them cross-eyed ... would seem to be the most incompetent.

However this is arguably the most nebulous part of the equation (i.e. difficult to reliably gauge) so I'm going to wait to see what the after-reports look like, and more importantly, whether all US citizens get out of there safely (and hopefully the Afghanis who were most imperiled by a Taliban takeover).

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Sorry, but somebody has to lose their job for Afghanistan collapse, probably Cabinet-level [View all] greenjar_01 Aug 2021 OP

The Agreement was made under the Trump Administration - this mess was a done deal. Dan Aug 2021 #1

Weak sauce greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #7

Maybe, what would you have us do? Dan Aug 2021 #9

What I would have had us do Dorian Gray Aug 2021 #33

Sad to say, but I think Dan Aug 2021 #45

Whatever plan we were seeking to execute for the last five months was awful greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #40

Your conflating "the deal" with "the execution" AkFemDem Aug 2021 #8

I agree, maybe the Execution of the withdrawal could have been handled better, But Dan Aug 2021 #13

The Soviet puppet government lasted two and one half years after they left. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #28

Does not negate the validity of what I said. Dan Aug 2021 #31

I was amplifying on what you said. It was a much nicer "withdrawal". DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #32

Succinct and accurate. cilla4progress Aug 2021 #19

I keep hearing the christofascist talking about some plan Pompeo and the Pig had... Thomas Hurt Aug 2021 #2

afghan prez flees country - wonder how much $$$ he stashed away first nt msongs Aug 2021 #3

It's been mismanaged for 15 years. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #4

It sure has greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #6

People in charge of intelligence who failed to realize that the Afghani forces would run like scared Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #5

They Knew Deep State Witch Aug 2021 #16

Yeah, I don't think so Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #18

Why? SoonerPride Aug 2021 #10

The purpose of the war in Afghanistan, like the war in Iraq, was to militarize US foreign policy Gaugamela Aug 2021 #11

It wasn't going to end any other way. 2000 election is where we could JI7 Aug 2021 #12

Gotta agree. Someone(s) will pay for this. Sure, past time to get out. But optics of people crowding Hoyt Aug 2021 #14

Agreed - Mike Pompeo has to go! FakeNoose Aug 2021 #15

And someone has, President Ghani bottomofthehill Aug 2021 #17

I think we should wait for more information and not jump the gun Eko Aug 2021 #20

apparently the tv makes people experts stillcool Aug 2021 #29

+1 n/t Lulu KC Aug 2021 #41

This would be the wise thing to do MustLoveBeagles Aug 2021 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #21

Biden abided by Trump's deal. maxsolomon Aug 2021 #22

Who was responsible moondust Aug 2021 #23

I think UnderThisLaw Aug 2021 #24

Every year it was postponed made it worse. Baked Potato Aug 2021 #25

There was no chance that this.. JackSabbath Aug 2021 #26

Do you actually know what happened? stillcool Aug 2021 #27

The toppling of Saddam's statue was staged by US military PufPuf23 Aug 2021 #34

that is what I was referring to stillcool Aug 2021 #36

Excuse me Stillc. I interpreted the post wrong. nt PufPuf23 Aug 2021 #37

No problem puf... stillcool Aug 2021 #50

On the contrary ymetca Aug 2021 #30

Really?? No! Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #35

Can't imagine the media hyping this, or making it look really bad for ratings..can you? PortTack Aug 2021 #38

There is no "management". Someone had to have the balls to cut our losses on that Tarc Aug 2021 #39

The Soviets couldn't do it, and the US couldn't do it. You can't control that region. nt Progressive Jones Aug 2021 #48

What is hard about this: even if you're pulling out, you have to do it in an orderly manner greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #52

There is no "orderly withdrawal" from a warzone. Either we fuck around forever, or Tarc Aug 2021 #55

I'd suggest Mike Pompeo . . . . hatrack Aug 2021 #42

That was my first thought MiniMe Aug 2021 #46

I don't blame Biden admin for Afghan collapse, was expected. I do however hold the admin responsible Fiendish Thingy Aug 2021 #43

We're running for the airports greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #53

Nobody's job is on the line. This is what everybody knew would happen. No surprises heare past ... marble falls Aug 2021 #44

Mike Pompeo Must Go Hekate Aug 2021 #49

No it has not, it all reflects on the reluctance to fight by Afghan army Pompoy Aug 2021 #51

What was the plan for the withdrawal and why didn't it contemplate Afghan army collapse? greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #54

I nominate George Bush, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld. meadowlander Aug 2021 #56